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Old 02-18-2005, 04:35 AM
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Target scopes...How do I???

Alright, I am new to this long range shooting thing but I want to get involved. First off I shoot a 30-06 and I would like to use it for at least one more year for deer/elk before upgrading.
I am going to get a Leica finder, Leupold Gold Ring spotter and am going to be putting on a new scope...Here's where I am lost, I would like to be able to dial in the range on my scope...But how does this work?
Say I have a 30-06 and my buddy has a 7mm Ultra MAg we both buy Leupold Mark 4 tactical scopes with target knows/adj whatever there tech. term is...
Now the scope is going to move the same amount for each adjustment even though we are shooting different claibers...can someone line me out on getting the the right scope and how I dial it in??
Thanks Lost in the long range world
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Old 02-18-2005, 07:02 AM
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Re: Target scopes...How do I???

read up all you can on trajectory and ballistics.
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Old 02-18-2005, 10:42 AM
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Re: Target scopes...How do I???

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"Now the scope is going to move the same amount for each adjustment even though we are shooting different claibers...can someone line me out on getting the the right scope and how I dial it in??"


The scope adjustments (turrets) will correct for trajectory... for example; Your 30-06 might need 11 MOA of UP adjustment over a 100 yard zero to get to a 500 yard zero while the 7mm UltraMag may only need 7 MOA to do the same thing. What you need to know is YOUR trajectory and don't worry about his... you zero at 100 yards and if the elk is 500 yards away you adjust your turret to 11MOA and you're dead-on at 500 yards. The scope (turret adjustment) is just a calibrated measurement device that you adjust the correct amount for the trajectory of the rifle you're shooting.

IF you get a calibrated reticle type scope, the one with the circles or lines for aiming points, you will then possibly need to get a different scope than your buddy with the 7mm Ultra Mag.

The better IMHO way is to get a scope with turrets and adjust the turrets for the elevation...you can then swap the scope to any rifle and establish new come-up data after the swap.
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Old 02-18-2005, 12:02 PM
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Re: Target scopes...How do I???

I would just like to add that you don't have to have a target style knob to shoot long range. The regular adjustment dials found on most hunting scopes are calibrated in the same angle measurement (called MOA) as the big varmint and target scopes. I own 5 big target scopes for varminting, and 5 regular scopes. I can shoot the same distances with both types, it just takes a nickel to move the regular dials. I find that the target knobs are too big and tall for big game hunting as they can sometimes get in the way.

I think you've probably seen turrets on tv that are calibrated for yardage and not minute of angle (MOA). For example: The elk is at 500 yards so twist the knob around to number 5. This is a special turret that has been calibrated for a particular load, and does not work as well as some might think. More on that later.
Your scope will be calibrated in MOA which is a universal measurement regardless of bullet or speed. You just have to take your own load and figure your MOA adjustment. This is easy with the help of a ballistic program. If you don't have one yet, there are many sites on the web where you can get access to a program.
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Alright, I am new to this long range shooting thing but I want to get involved. First off I shoot a 30-06 and I would like to use it for at least one more year for deer/elk before upgrading.
I am going to get a Leica finder, Leupold Gold Ring spotter and am going to be putting on a new scope...Here's where I am lost, I would like to be able to dial in the range on my scope...But how does this work?
Say I have a 30-06 and my buddy has a 7mm Ultra MAg we both buy Leupold Mark 4 tactical scopes with target knows/adj whatever there tech. term is...
Now the scope is going to move the same amount for each adjustment even though we are shooting different claibers...can someone line me out on getting the the right scope and how I dial it in??
Thanks Lost in the long range world

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if your '06 is a shooter no real need to change that-glass is extremely important-leupold is a great choice for a reasonable amount of money-consistency is the key to long range shooting so your ammo will need to be selected carefully and then either load alot of it or buy loaded stuff preferably in the same lot #'s-check here for the dials for your scope that can be made to match your load.

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Old 02-23-2005, 09:55 PM
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Re: Target scopes...How do I???

im upgrading my mighty '06,, to a .30-06 AI. nothing wrong with that pill, learn your clicks, if its accurate
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Old 02-24-2005, 07:26 AM
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Re: Target scopes...How do I???

Fowlguy,
One thing that was not mentioned by previous posters, is internal adjustment.
If you intend to shoot out 1000yds in the future, consider a scope which has enough internal adjustment to put you on at 1000yds from your 100yd zero, or alternatively purchase a sloping scope base (20moa, 25moa,or even 40moa).
Scopes with 30mm tubes usually offer more adjustment,but not necessarily. Check this out before buying.
Like myself, many shooters like to use a moa base and a scope with plenty of adjustment. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Centre Punch.

I use the Leupold 8.5-25x50 LRT with M1 turrets
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