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Old 04-23-2011, 07:51 PM
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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss

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Between my brothers and my dad and myself we have several big rifles in 6.5 rum to 340wby and .338 rum. At first we all had different scopes, leopold vx3 4-14x50, swar av 4-12 and ziess conquest 4-14. All the rifles have brakes. My dad busted the lupie so bad you could hear something lose in the turret. It was one of the older ones ie 1995 and it never really tracted good, but would hold zero good. Leopold customer service was great. Next was the ziess on my .338rum. The optics where great. I would say better than an equal price lupie, but not as good as my dads new swar. Heres my gripe with ziess. It broke two different times, and no I never dropped the rifle or miss treated the scope. It would not hold a zero. Customer service was bad! One time I sent it in, and it took 4 months to get back. And it was the worng scope! I finally broke down and bought a new swar z-6 2.5-15x56. We now have 4 swar scopes and 3 swar binos in the family. Never one problem. We have one that been switched from rifle to rifle tons and has thousands of rounds from big mags and never a problem. When it comes to ziess I think there Euro made stuff is better made, and more like the swar. Just my 2c.
Thanks for all the good info. I have Leupold and Zeiss so it sounds like I need to try the Swarovski.
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:06 PM
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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss

The 1" Zeiss aren't in the same class as the Swarovski scopes when it comes to the glass. Zeiss uses more and better coatings on the glass in their 30mm tubes than on the glass in their 1" tubes. I have owned several Swarovski scopes and I have 1 Zeiss Diavari 6-24x56 with the Rapid Z 1000 reticle on my Lapua. (I got a smoking deal on the 6-24, otherwise, I would have bought the S&B.) The Zeiss glass is nice, but the Swarovski scopes perform better in low light. The Conquest scopes are brighter as mentioned because they have less coatings. The Conquest scopes do not perform as well in low light due to the lack of coatings. I also notice there is more glare in Zeiss scopes. Once you own Swarovski scopes for a while, your eyes become more discriminating, and you see more details and flaws in lesser scopes. High end glass becomes an addiction, beware.
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:25 PM
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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss

The Zeiss is by far the better deal it will do anything the swaro will do.The zeiss glass is excellent and I would trust the tracking even more than the swaro.Side by side comparing I do not see the swaro as being better glass.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:20 PM
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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss

+1 on Swarovski

Have a 3-10x42 av on a 300 rum and love it. Wish I could afford to buy a couple more.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:55 PM
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I'm looking into getting a new hunting rifle that is lighter and shorter than my current rifles (Edge, and Ultra mags) and I am trying to decide on a scope. I am interested in a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14 and Swarovski Z3 4-12 or possibly a Z5 3.5-18. What are your thoughts between the Zeiss and Swarovski? Also is there any difference between the Z3 and Z5 other than magnification range? This will not be my long range gun and most shots with this gun will likely be well under 300yds. Any info would be appreciated.
The Z5 has the same springs and innards that the Professional Hunter series had and that the Z6 series has. The Z3 isn't as tough. It should perform fine on most rifles but it's not the scope the Z5 and Z6 are. The Z5 is a very good scope and has good glass. I had one and would have kept it had it been illuminated. Low light visibility was great. The Z6 is the big dog now though and once you own one you'll never see the others the same way again. The coatings on the Z6 are superior to the other two lines giving you even more low light visibility. The Germans use them to hunt at night with little moonlight.

Your comment that most shots will be under 300 yards would make the 1.7-10x42 Z6 or the 2-12x50 z6 some excellent options. I have 3 of the z6 2-12s and find them to be the best low light scopes in the series. The z6 2.5-15x44 and 3-18x50 are also both very good scopes. Couldn't go wrong with either. The illuminated ones with the rails and ballistic turrets are around $3,000 but they're nice.

Last Conquest I had was the 4.5-14x50 and it was a good scope. Was very good in low light in spite of them not having the super coatings on them. Wouldn't hestitate owning one down the road. They've come a long way since they were first introduced. Rumor has it that one of the big boys is going to be offering illumination on their 1" models in the not to distant future. Should be interesting as to which one it is because they will grab a bunch of the market share.
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Old 07-02-2011, 07:28 AM
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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss

I Have the 3-10x42 (z3) I believe and it's on my 300rum sporter weight rifle. It has take everything that it can dish out. Great glass and still solid after the recoil
of of the 300rum w/o break.
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Old 07-02-2011, 09:19 AM
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I Have the 3-10x42 (z3) I believe and it's on my 300rum sporter weight rifle. It has take everything that it can dish out. Great glass and still solid after the recoil
of of the 300rum w/o break.

Don't doubt for a second that it has given you good service. I've had a bunch of the AVs over the years and they are essentially the same scope as the Z3 other than a new outside tube to look more like the Z5 and Z6 models. I can't recall off the top of my head how the springs are different but the PH and Z6 models were set up to withstand just about anything without breaking or moving. 505 Jeffreys, etc... I think it is explained on the Swarovski website though how they are different.

The bottom line is they are all Swarovskis so you'll have good mechanics no matter which one you get. I have a 6-18 AV on my Colt Sauer 7 Mag and have had them on 300 Wbys in the past with no problem.
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