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Old 01-21-2011, 12:12 PM
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Re: Shot show...So what great optic releases can we expect to see in 2011?

I talked to the folks at the Nightforce booth. They make their scopes in Orofino Idaho, not Japan. I think I hears when they started out they had some made in jbapan...but they were pretty clear they design and assemble in the US.

Sorry for the crappy cellphone typing.

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Yeah, other than name the new models have nothing in common with the old models--which are decent scopes for the price but certainly on the low end glass-wise, etc.

The new models are completely new clean-sheet designs made in a different factory--actually the same factory in Japan where Nightforces are made. The highest power HD right now, the 10X fixed, has glass comparable to the IOR 2.5-10 if you've ever looked through one of those you know that's high praise. Here are a couple articles where it is compared with high end scopes:

High End Tactical Scopes: East vs West

High End Tactical Scopes: Part II

The durability, the tracking repeatability, etc, is stellar. They've been around for a while now and you just never hear of people having problems with them. They have a couple (a 10X HD and a 3-9X I think) at the Rifles Only school on hand for students to use when they break their Leupolds that have seen many lifetimes of abuse but are still going strong.

Anyway, that's why we're excited about a higher power version coming out. Quality-wise I expect it to compete with scopes costing $2k but it should sell for much less.
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Re: Shot show...So what great optic releases can we expect to see in 2011?

I think what they said is true. The design and assembly is done in Idaho but the components, most of them anyway, come from Japan.
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I think what they said is true. The design and assembly is done in Idaho but the components, most of them anyway, come from Japan.
I didn't ask details on where they got reticles, or tubes or erectors or O-rings etc...

I would assume, but not state it as fact unless I knew, that optics come from Asia--most but not all do these days.

As for the rest I wouldn't presume to know-and I didn't ask specifically at the booth yesterday. Why don't you email them and ask? They might give you an answer. I'm curious.

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Re: Shot show...So what great optic releases can we expect to see in 2011?

The F1 3.5-15 and compact 1-4 and 2.5-10 are made in the USA and say that right on them.

The SFP 3.5-15, 5.5-22, etc, that most people here have, are made in Japan and say that right on them (unless it has changed REALLY recently).
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What reticle are you referring to in NF's F1?
There's some info and pics in this thread: Nightforce Shot Show flyer - Sniper's Hide Forums .
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Weaver and Bushnell need a better mil reticle than just mildot. Anything simple with 1/2 mil graduations would be ideal. Now that they have .1 mil adjusts they will be impressive. I am expecially excited about Weaver.
It gets even better. Apparently in addition to .1 mil clicks the Weavers are getting a better reticle with 1/2 Mil marks, illumination and 100 MOA of travel! As long as they didn't compromise the optics to get that increased travel, this could offer some legit competition to the PST.
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It gets even better. Apparently in addition to .1 mil clicks the Weavers are getting a better reticle with 1/2 Mil marks, illumination and 100 MOA of travel! As long as they didn't compromise the optics to get that increased travel, this could offer some legit competition to the PST.

Ya, I just read about those features on the hide. Impressive indeed! Do you know if their tacitcal line will use the micro-track turrets? Those turrets are the real deal in my experience and I think they are seriously missing out by not offering more scopes with that turret system and doing a better job of promoting them. Scopes with micro-track are some of the few I have played with that have had no issues with tracking and holding zero. Not that they can't but I think they are at the top of the heap for consistency.
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