Originally Posted by sp6x6
Jon A, I know you are a mil type guy, what do youthink is the best bet out there right now in the $1000 and under, #1,#2,#3 FFP. Your fav #1 no cost issue
Assuming most here want higher powers for LR which eliminates the SS 3-9, I’d put them at:
1 PST 4-16/6-24 . Pretty easily the best all around package for less than $1K.
2 Weaver 3-15/4-20. Lacks features but makes up for it with brilliant optics for the price. .1 Mil knobs finally available.
3 Bushnell 3-12/6-24. Personally I want more than 12X for a LR scope these days, but their 6-24 is too much for anything too close so that’s the main reason I have them at the bottom. A 4-16 or 5-20 would be much more useful to me overall. And the 6-24 is seriously lacking in adjustment range. I’ve heard they may fix that this year? I’ve also heard they may be discontinued so I don’t know. For woods hunting at low light I’d say the 3-12 would easily be ahead of the Weaver with its illumination, but for everything else I’d rather have the Weaver.
#1 at any price? That’s tough. At the top end they’re you can’t really say one is “better” than another as they are all so good it comes down to personal preferences of the features you want. And of course many of the top contenders aren’t yet available and/or I haven’t played with them yet.
I guess the best answer to that is it’s no accident I’ve put down a deposit on a March 3-24. The capability of this scope, and the overall package is hard to beat. I know a Hensoldt 4-16 will do some things a little better, as might a S&B 3-20 (probably my second choice) but the way I see it, the March will leave little to be desired in any area for any type of use.
The size and weight of this thing is going to be such a thrill after carrying around giant scopes the last few years. The brush hunting prowess of 3X and yet the ability to see bullet holes in targets or tines on a rack at distance as well as many spotting scopes make this an amazing piece of equipment. Low profile large diameter knobs are exactly what I like—especially with 10 mils per turn—zero stop, tons of travel, illumination, very nice reticle, brilliant optics by any measure…March’s reputation for durability and tracking accuracy/repeatability…. It’s just hard to think of a single thing this scope lacks for my purposes.
While I can certainly get along well with a number of high end scopes, I really think all things considered this is the best for me.
On a big, heavy rifle where size/weight wasn’t a concern or one that never gets used up close so low magnification isn’t needed other choices might do as well or better.
Anyway, back to the subject of the thread:
In the window between the top end and the sub-$1K level, I’m really excited about the new Premier. I really liked my 3-15, a Hunter or “light tactical” model with the same glass, weighing a pound less but still “tough enough” is very attractive, especially if priced below the NF F1. NF has finally put a decent reticle in the F1 and now with 10 Mil knobs it’s getting closer to what I’d like but I’d have a hard time choosing it over the premier for $2K+.
Another I’m excited about in this range is a new IOR. It’s a 4-16X50 on a 30mm tube. FFP Mil/Mil, Illuminated…but lighter weight and lower in price than the 3.5-18X50. I like my 3.5-18 but it’s as heavy as the Premier Heritage.
Those two choices should be very interesting to hunters wanting something a significant step up from the PST’s but not going over the $2K, 35oz marks. This is about where I expect the 5-20 SS to fit in as well. I don’t know if it will have quite that level of glass quality but may come in significantly cheaper. We shall see.