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Old 11-05-2013, 11:23 PM
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Re: SFP vs. FFP

Nice, tell your son good work. I have quailified expert on edson range myself.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:18 AM
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Re: SFP vs. FFP

Not to be rude, but tbh if you're asking the difference between the 2, it's not going to matter which 1 you choose.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:42 AM
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Re: SFP vs. FFP

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The best thing you can do is spend a ton of time reading, learning and then deciding exactly how you are going to use your scope when hunting big game LR. There are many valid reasons to consider FFP and ranging isn't one of them.

Are you going to dial or hold for elevation?

How about wind?

Do you measure groups with your reticle or size up game animals with your reticle?

Do you plan on shooting different power levels, especially if you also will use the reticle for elevation and/or wind holds?

All of these things will help you decide if FFP is something you should consider.

Today's FFP reticles are a zero issue for LR shooting IMO ELR is a different story. The thickest of FFP reticles only cover 2 inches at 1000 yards. So for big game applications this is a non issue for almost everyone with a modicum of good eyesight. Loosing the reticle on low powers is likely a bigger concern. However, the way the outside portion of the reticle is designed in today's FFP scopes, this is a non issue as well.

Good luck in your decision.

Scot E.
+1, Scot gives a nice summary of the advantages of FFP. You can do the same thing with a SFP scope. But you will one day forget to do the conversion if not shooting at max magnification and under pressure. Ask me how I know...
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:22 AM
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Re: SFP vs. FFP

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+1, Scot gives a nice summary of the advantages of FFP. You can do the same thing with a SFP scope. But you will one day forget to do the conversion if not shooting at max magnification and under pressure. Ask me how I know...
Yup, I know too! learned the hard way!

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Old 11-14-2013, 09:33 PM
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Re: SFP vs. FFP

FFP removes a potential problem while employing the reticle, the same as a zero stop does when employing turrets. At least in my case the less I have to ponder the better prior to the shot.
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Old 11-16-2013, 12:58 AM
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Re: SFP vs. FFP

I've recently joined the ffp camp....mainly for some of the reasons outlined earlier.

The biggest benefit I have found is consistent windage holds across the power range....don't underestimate this benefit. Like most I dial elevation and hold wind and holding the same spot on the reticle is worth a lot.

I spent a lot of time looking at animals with my new ffp's across tha power range at ranges to over 1200 yds recently and I did not feel I could have taken the shot because the reticle was covering too much of the animal.

Ffp keeps things simple, another must have is a reticle that matches your knobs, either MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA, either works but I find MIL's easier to work with.
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:29 PM
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Re: SFP vs. FFP

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The biggest benefit I have found is consistent windage holds across the power range....don't underestimate this benefit. Like most I dial elevation and hold wind and holding the same spot on the reticle is worth a lot.
This is true if you use only horizontal hash/dots for windage, but means nothing for the shooter who simply holds inches into the wind(like me). I dial elevation, and my favorite aim is a simple med-fine crosshair. My click-card as I call it tells me the hold-off in inches per range per 5mph wind.
When this isn't simple enough that a caveman could do it, I don't take the shot -until it is.

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I spent a lot of time looking at animals with my new ffp's across tha power range at ranges to over 1200 yds recently and I did not feel I could have taken the shot because the reticle was covering too much of the animal.
Finally, someone honest around here!
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