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Old 11-29-2010, 04:41 PM
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sfp/ffp for hunting

i would like to hear yalls opinions on whether or not ffp scopes are worth the extra money if theyre going on a hunting rifle. ive read people say that sfp is a waste of time with the reticle for hunting because you have a reticle with graduations, meaning you should get a ffp scope. wouldnt that really depend on the kind of hunting you do?

ex: hunting situations in which you have time to power up to full magnification and range the target, then dial in dope/hold over and shoot- here a sfp seems like it would be ok. in hunting situations where you have to more quickly range, dial dope/hold over and make a kill shot- here it seems like a ffp scope would be a much better choice. hunting some animals might present certain situations that other animals might not.

NF NXS F1's are just out of my price range. however, im looking at the sfp mil/mil nxs's and they are do-able. i definitely will be hunting with my rig, it will actually be my go to gun for most everything i hunt- whitetail, pigs, varmints etc. i dont plan on ever shooting competitions or matches. im also concerned about the reticle in a ffp scope 1) being too thin for my liking when im hunting in brush and have the scope on low power and 2) being almost invisible in low light situations when the scope is on low power.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:37 PM
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Re: sfp/ffp for hunting

I am waiting for the Viper PST that has the option of being MOA dial MOA marks first focal plane. I use a drop chart so if you don't have time to fool with the dials and the scope is a first focal plane scope you can just hold over no matter what the power setting is. I think that is a real plus in a hunting rifle that's carried and is set to the lowest setting while hiking.

For the reason above I think it's money well spent!
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:33 PM
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Re: sfp/ffp for hunting

i was set on the viper pst but have read some pretty bad reports about it. when you think about it, they have to cut corners somewhere to have a scope with all those bells and whistles everyone wants and still have it be $800. now ive decided to wait longer to save more, then buy the best i can afford the first time around.

but besides that, anyone else have opinions on ffp vs sfp for hunting?
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:20 PM
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Re: sfp/ffp for hunting

A lot depends on the actual reticle being used.
Generally speaking, FFP reticles can be harder to pick up at close range in a busy background,since the reticle is usually very thin and small at low power. Basically you either have a too small/too thin reticle at close range that is well sized for long range, or you have one that is too large at long range,but is sized ok for short range work.
If all of your shots are going to be 100yds or further, FFP is great,and has the aforementioned ranging advantages,and is more useful with a ranging reticle than an SFP scope.
If you want to use a rifle for shots inside of 100yds in a background like eastern woodlands as well as for longer ranged work, an SFP is preferable. The reticle will appear to be the same size for both long and short range, though it can only be used properly for ranging at one given power. SFP reticles can be used as ballistic reticles by matching drop/line combinations at different magnifications,but that's a band-aid approach compared to the easier "this load shoots to stadia line 3 at 400yds and line 6 at 500yds,...) method used with a FFP scope.

I hunt eastern woodlands, so all of my scopes are SFP.
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:24 PM
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Re: sfp/ffp for hunting

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i was set on the viper pst but have read some pretty bad reports about it. when you think about it, they have to cut corners somewhere to have a scope with all those bells and whistles everyone wants and still have it be $800. now ive decided to wait longer to save more, then buy the best i can afford the first time around.

but besides that, anyone else have opinions on ffp vs sfp for hunting?

The reports you are referring to about the Viper PST scope....could you post a link or point me in their direction. Would be very interested in reading them as most everything I've been able to find has been positive.
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:27 PM
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Re: sfp/ffp for hunting

personally i'll take a 2fp any time over a 1fp for a hunting rig, especially one that's a carry gun. you've already stated the down side of 1fp, the reticle is always the wrong thickness for what's needed. the trend is they've made these hairs too thin so they can be used on the higher magnifications and then, as you've stated, on lower magnifications, are barely able to be seen.
and how long does it take to put the magnification on the highest, or whatever setting, it can be used to range/holdover with? a couple seconds at the most. i'll take a second focal plane.
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:37 PM
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Re: sfp/ffp for hunting

kcebj- i will have to go back and find them, then pm you. i only talked to one person through pms, so cant link you to that. real busy with school right now ill get to it asap.

i have read that a huge advantage in ffp is in matches where your pressed for time and/or shooting moving targets. you can power to whatever magnification provides the FOV/sight picture you want. then you can use the reticle and not worry about it being accurate. i will not ever be in that situation, or i dont think i will.

i have heard a few people say that ffp scopes are not worth the money if your shooting inside what they consider as "point blank range" which might be out to 300-350 yds. why is this? the gun is a .308, will the drop at those ranges be so minimal that i will not need to worry about dialing in dope?
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