Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment > Long Range Scopes and Other Optics

Long Range Scopes and Other Optics Nightforce Optics


Reply

SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-28-2011, 02:43 PM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 692
SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting

This rifle is a 300. wsm which is only used on Moose, Elk, Caribou, Black bear and deer. Deer is the smallest game this gun will be used on. I have never owned an FFP scope before but it seems like a smart idea if someone plans on using the rifle for long range hunting and shooting. I wont make any shots past 600 yards not even on targets. I was thinking that the FFP reticle gives me the ability to use the turrets if i have time to set up, and if i need to make a quick shot, it allows me to shoot on any power, at most ranges as long as i know the drop in inches/moa. What is your thoughts on an FFP reticle for big game hunting, Mainly Moose, Black bear, Elk, Caribou with the odd deer?

The scope im talking about is the Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50mm SFP or FFP Moa reticle and turrets.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-28-2011, 07:42 PM
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 46
Re: SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting

I'm on the fence about ffp. I'm going with the 2nd fp because I feel ranging and atmospheric correction will allow more accurate shot placement. With f1 one still needs to use the turrent for atmospheric correction.
The ffp has it's place if one desires to use the reticle for ranging as it will work at any mag level.
I think the f1 would shine if one zeros it at a greater distance than 200 yds (say 300-500 yds) and creating charts for hold under/over for the range your target lies.
I know Nightforce has several versions of their velocity reticles that is etched to match your load and mv. They are spendy though.
I know it's a dfficult choice, any scope will compromise the hunter unless much time is spent familiarizing oneself with it's reticle and how it interacts with the specific round being fired and the atmosphere.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-28-2011, 08:05 PM
LR3 LR3 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 168
Re: SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting

For out to 600 I would suggest a Leupold B&C You can work out your distances using a ballistic program for the various lines eg I set mine up for 350, 500 , 575 and 650 yd and is much quicker than turrets. Keeps about 3.5 " drop within those ranges. Beyond 600 I use both ffp and sfp but prefer most times ffp
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-28-2011, 08:55 PM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 692
Re: SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting

i was thinking Leupold but decided to go vortex i believe. I want to start getting more into long range hunting and shooting. i am very interested in it, it opens all new windows and i firmly believe that the Viper PST is the scope to get for beginners or relatively new into it.

Im going with PST and i think im getting the FFP model. I will only shoot out too 600 yards for now, but eventually shoot out too 1000 on targets but stick with 600 for game due to 300. wsm power.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-28-2011, 10:27 PM
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pa
Posts: 75
Re: SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting

This is a question of much debate amid shooters I know quite a few people who hate FFP and will never change from SFP.
IMO they both have their advantages over one or the other but the advantage is no game changer given modern technology talk more about that later.
The FFP is a better choice for ranging as said above but that comes at a cost as the reticule stays the same size through out the magnification ranges in other words its smaller when you want it bigger and vice versa makes a difference on smaller targets at long range.
Honestly unless you can do the math equations in your head or bring along a calculator in the field the ranging feature is useless not to mention reticule ranging is often inaccurate it might get you close but at longer ranges close is off target or injuring an animal.
The calculation would look like this if the it where a Mil/Mil FFP to get range in yards.
size of target X 27.778 = yards
Mil reading

This calculation would be the same if it were a SFP scope to but it would only work at one Magnification range.

The reason why FFP IMO does not have a huge advantage over SFP is because we have LRFs and ballistic calculators and range cards. The only time FFP would show a real advantage is the military world where equipment gets destroyed more frequently and you might not have a LRF even then SFP still works for reticule ranging you just have the extra step of zooming which takes all of 2 seconds.

That said I have no problem with either so long as the said scope works being that most FFP 9/10 scopes are very high end. example if some one put a S&B PM II and a leupold MK IV on a table and said pick one your damm skippy i would pick the S&B.
for the vortex PST I would save myself a little cash and get the SFP version
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-28-2011, 10:47 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: South of Canada and North of Wyoming
Posts: 5,954
Re: SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting

I don't even see this thread
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-28-2011, 10:57 PM
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pa
Posts: 75
Re: SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting

Haha its been done a thousand times.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads for: SFP or the FFP for big game rifle hunting
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Big Game Hunting In Newfoundland Canada!! newfielander The Rest Of The World 2 03-06-2012 05:58 AM
Nebraska Crossbow Hunting Okayed for Big Game Len Backus Crossbow Hunting (Not PSE) 4 11-25-2010 10:20 AM
My son Tyler's first big game hunting !! Sendero_Man Long Range Hunting & Shooting 15 10-27-2010 11:42 AM
hunting bigger game / .22 caliber/magnum hunterforcenturies Long Range Hunting & Shooting 11 03-20-2008 02:05 AM

Current Poll
Have You Ever Backpack Hunted?
YES - 62.26%
1,049 Vote
NO - 37.74%
636 Votes
Total Votes: 1,685
You may not vote on this poll.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
All content ©2010-2014 Long Range Hunting, LLC