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Old 02-22-2013, 08:24 AM
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Re: Is this a scope issue

I shoot (free recoil) and know I'm not introducing any holding errors.

I have had issues like this before with a new build.
I am also one that uses a very light hold on the gun, let it do it's own thing.
I built a 6.5 SAUM that i couldn't get to shoot under 2-3" grps, with anything I tried. One day I desided to just pull the gun into my shoulder real tight and the first group was in the 2's. This might not be your problem but worth a try some guns just like to be hugged.


Barry
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:55 PM
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Re: Is this a scope issue

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I shoot (free recoil) and know I'm not introducing any holding errors.

I have had issues like this before with a new build.
I am also one that uses a very light hold on the gun, let it do it's own thing.
I built a 6.5 SAUM that i couldn't get to shoot under 2-3" grps, with anything I tried. One day I desided to just pull the gun into my shoulder real tight and the first group was in the 2's. This might not be your problem but worth a try some guns just like to be hugged.


Barry
I agree , Now the truth comes out , you can't shoot a 7mm saum free recoil with a crappy rear sand bag for support and not expect some vertical .
You may not be seeing any holding errors but that does not mean the recoil is tracking well after you touch her off .
Free recoil with a bi-pod is also prone to the gun jumping up in the air although you are using a farley rest which should be good.
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:02 AM
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Re: Is this a scope issue

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Originally Posted by Va Hillbilly View Post
I shoot (free recoil) and know I'm not introducing any holding errors.

I have had issues like this before with a new build.
I am also one that uses a very light hold on the gun, let it do it's own thing.
I built a 6.5 SAUM that i couldn't get to shoot under 2-3" grps, with anything I tried. One day I decided to just pull the gun into my shoulder real tight and the first group was in the 2's. This might not be your problem but worth a try some guns just like to be hugged.


Barry

That was the issue, here is a pic of the rifle and the bag set up, a little dark but best the cell phone can do. And a pic of a group when hugging it hard as Hillbilly suggested. Now to learn the same grip, and this rifle will be ready way out there.
Group measured under .360" I shot another one before this a tad larger.

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Old 02-23-2013, 07:25 PM
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Re: Is this a scope issue

That looks much better now.
That's not a "sand bag" it's a " bunny eared rear bag " big difference.
If you had of said " free recoil " in the beginning I would have been on it straight away .
I can still see a few things to improve .
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