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Unread 05-19-2013, 09:27 AM
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scope for first elk hunt

I'm going on my first rifle elk hunt in October. I'm using a 300 win mag. The outfitter said the average shot is 250 to 350 yards, but I want to be prepared to shoot 400 yards at a 400 class elk . I've got a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50 with a Zplex reticle which does not have any elavation or windage marks. I've also got a Nikon BDC 4.5-14x40 that does have the elavation circles under the crosshairs. The Zeiss is very clear and the Nikon has a thick cosshair.

I'm wondering if I should get a different scope and do things right the first time. I'm 62 years old, so I don't have 20 years to experiment with scopes.

Since its my first rifle hunt, is there a better scope I should get???
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    Unread 05-19-2013, 11:01 AM
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    Re: scope for first elk hunt

    The distance from brisket to top of back on a good size bull is about 30" If you zero your rilfe @ 300 yds your point blank range will be out to 350 yds (3.5 - 5 inches low @ 350 depending on bullet and load) At 400, your bullet drop will be about 8-10" which is an east hold over just below top of back. You should not need a special scope for that.
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    I'd rather shoot with the Zeiss set up you have, at a known range, than dial turrets, or use a reticle system and guess. Most guides these days will have a range finder, but if yours won't, invest there first. Good range finders are what makes longer range shooting possible whatever scope/reticle system you choose.
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    Re: scope for first elk hunt

    Unfortunately Im not an elk hunter...and too dammed old at this point to start...but from all that Ive read...and people that Ive talked with...Montana Rifleman lead you right down the primrose path. Follow his advice to the T


    ??? About how large is a 400 class bull???
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    I agree with investing in a rangefinder if you don't already have one. Range estimating can be very difficult and deceptive as in a shot that looks 400 could easily be 500 or more. If I were you, for this elk hunt, I would zero @ 300 and have a drop chart from 350 to 500 for the average elevation you are hunting. You should easily be able to make a 500 yard shot with your Zeiss if you and your rifle are up to it.
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    What about a Burris eliminator scope with a built in range finder that automatically adjusts the dot for aim? When I spend $300 to $400 for a laser range finder, I could sell my Zeiss for $300 and it would only cost me an addition $400 to $500 to get the Burris. But is it worth it??? While a 400 yard shot is not to bad to put the cross hair just below the back, shooting 500 yards is a lot more difficult to judge where to aim.
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    Re: scope for first elk hunt

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    I'm going on my first rifle elk hunt in October. I'm using a 300 win mag. The outfitter said the average shot is 250 to 350 yards, but I want to be prepared to shoot 400 yards at a 400 class elk .
    These guys have given you solid advice. I would stick with the Zeiss and learn it well with practice beforehand. So where are you going after this 400 class bull? Is this a hunt in a fenced area? Did the guide say there would be 400" opportunities?

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