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Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

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Unread 12-15-2005, 02:05 PM
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Re your 1st post on this topic:

Good stuff - and well explained! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Unread 12-16-2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

Tactical, your post was very clear.. my fault, i forgot to include an "also".. just ratifying what you said.
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Unread 12-19-2005, 09:14 AM
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Outstanding---I have never had a problem with any of my PMII scopes or even the Zenith for that matter. I pretty much only buy the PMII or US Optics now except for my 1000 yd competition rifles. If US Optics will ever get the hunting line off of the ground then I will start using them as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Unread 12-19-2005, 06:59 PM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

when is their hunting line going to move? is it the jaeger or denali? If they dotn offer something without and adjustable objective, i wont even look at it
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Unread 12-22-2005, 02:34 AM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

Hi Pete ,

Chris from New Zealand here , dont let the assholes get to you , any person that researchs this topic of scopes for SWS can see thru the Pure BS coming from Mr Ggggg , did I spell it right , like you I use a Real Name ,

You are right in that AI has sold more SWS than any other maker , and most of these to Military clients , and that S&B PMII are the std all others are judged & are again used by more Mil units than any other , quite simple really , do a web search and find the Facts.

Most snipers would want a FFP scope if they had any say in it , the 2 things I would like in a PMII to make it better suited to me personally , is a slightly thinner P4 type reticle and more range in the diopler setting ,

In RE the Canadian sniper in A'stan , the photos I have seen of the 3 man group show a McBros 50 BMG , modifed for Canadian use , ie shorter bipod legs & a cheek rest , mounting a Leupold scope of some sort ,eihter a 16x MK4 or the Varipower 25x , and yes I can tell the differance between a Lopie & NF scope .
The other SWS used by the 3 man Canadian team , was a Parker Hale C3A1 rifle ( ie M87 ) w/ 10x Unertl version with turret marked in Metre's .

Funny I didn;t see the NXS's , I must be going blind ,
You are also right on the Blaser rifle , a fantasic marketing campaign , and a generally poor product , good barrel though , and if the GSG9 adopted them , shows very poor decision making process .

Like a lot of things posted on the Web , some are Pure BS , it only takes a little research and a small amount of logic to find the Truth , and if people can't do that for themselves , they deserve the all the BS Mr Ggggge can dish , baby ,

Later ChrisF ,
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Unread 12-22-2005, 09:58 AM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

Hi Chris, thanks for your support. that S O A B, wound me up with his indignant attitude. the bull that he was posting was in 90% every way contradictory to any sniper training ive ever had, of course, back then we didn't have the luxury of the PMII. we had a WWII vintage fosil onto of a re barreled WWII sniper rifle.( i remember thinking, i have a better scope on my winchester .22lr at home(which is where my brain child the 4-16x42PMII was born)i found it cheap skate of the MOD top issue us with near enough the same damn rifle my Dad had carried 30 and 40 years earlier. things did improve as the M85 as a stop gap was issued to some units, with either a 6x42 S&B, Hensold or Kahles zf85 ( i saw all 3) some no doubt came through local purchase from troop funds, and i mounted my 6x42 nikko stirling (stolen from my .22) on to a SLR as the spotters rifle, it also eventualy ended up on a (yuk spit) SA80.
The first ever L96A1 i built was a work of art, and it had a green S&B 6x42 on it.
anyways, i didn't want to go into a long and drawn out sniper thread on a long range hunting forum, however intertwined the 2 subjects are.
I agree with you on the requirement for a thinner reticle on the PMII and have pointed this out to as many of the S&B staff who will listen several times, including the boss. I know that this will become an option on all the S&B PMII range and the Klein ret is available on the 4-16x50 definately. i want to see a thinner illuminated reticle. this will all come along,
i also want to see the technology from the 1.25-4 CQB PMII scope incorporated into a 1.5-6x42 zenthith PMII, with Flash dot, 3 settings on the ret for NV. and also normal dark conditions illuminated reticle. This would make the optimim DMR scope, it would be very usable in MOUT scenarios, and would make a damn good driven boar ( or driven Haji) scope.
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Unread 12-22-2005, 10:36 AM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

MOUT? MOUT?! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] -you wannabe redneck!!
it's still FIBUA this side of the pond [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
...well, FIBUA within OBUA [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

PS...has the gat arrived yet?
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