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Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

 
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:46 AM
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Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

I see that the other thread has been closed. I just wanted to post the factual info from S&B with regards to failure rates in the PMII line of optics. I recieved this email from S&B today.

"Schmidt und Bender, Service" <service@schmidt-bender.de> schrieb:
Sehr geehrter Herr Lincoln,

durch die komplette Überarbeitung aller Modelle vor ca. 8 Jahren ist die berechtigte Reklamationsrate so stark gesunken, daß die Belegschaft im Service um 40% reduziert werden konnte. Von den berechtigten Reklamationen bilden die PM II- Gläser eine schwindend geringen Prozentsatz von ca. 0,4%, da wir ja auch wissen welche harten Anforderungen an diese Modelle gestellt werden. Somit treffen Ihre Erfahrungen besser zu wie die anderen Gerüchte. Unser Vertrag mit dem USMC spricht eigentlich für die gute Qualität unserer Produkte.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Schmidt & Bender GmbH
Klaus Görzel

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Dear Mr Lincoln.
through the complete modernisation and upgrade program of the our whole range 8 years ago, the reclamation / return rate has been reduced so much that we have been able to reduce the number of staff in the service department by 40%.
From the true number of real failures, the PMII models represent 0.4%, this is because we know exactly the conditions and demands that are required of these scopes. Hence your experiences represent a true reflection or the situation, rather than any rumours that may be circulating.
Our contract with the USMC speaks in its self for the quality of our product.
Yours Sincerely.
Klaus Görzel

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Old 12-14-2005, 08:21 AM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

Well I´m a lucky guy.. swarovs seem to be trash and mine works perfect since many years.. so my new SB PM II 4-16 x 50 will never be into that 0,4 % percentage for sure. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:16 PM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

Pete, good to see you. I have not posted here in awhile but had to when I saw the not well informed man tell half truths and flat out not true things.

Firts off Pete is not a liar. Good to go all the way. Pete thank you for getting SxB to build the 4-16x42 PMII

Second, the no operator with experince will want the FFP reticle thing is just false. The US Army has made it a requirement for most all of the new sniper rifles programs in last four years. Leupold changed to this set up for the SR25s in the 3.5-10s

The USMC picked front focal plane reticles as a requirement for both the 50 and 308 rifle scope programs. Maybe thats way NXS did not test? Its a rear focal plane scope. It did not qualify for the tests. The only scope that passed the USMC tests was the SxB. Period dot. Thats how it was picked and it was tested against some damm fine scopes.

Now this and that about the Navy. A little bird told me they might be working on a FFP version of the NXS. Might want to check that out.

Now on FFP versus rear focal plane. There is no good reason for rear focal plane, under field conditions, except
1. The uninformed are bugged by what appears to be a alrger and smaller reticle as the power is changed on FFP.
2. The rear focal plane scopes are easier to make.

The reasons for a FFP are simple. The subtentions are the same on all powers. That means real distance the lines represent never changes no matter the power. How is that important? Well in real tactical of hunting world (Read off bench rest) field conditions change and powers get adjusted for light or moving targets.

Now lets see. With rear focal plane.
1.I am in pitch black and dial down to see target better. Wind makes sudden change and I dont have time to dial (or ability to see dial). I amke that adjustment and second target appears, how do I know what mil to use for hold over/under? How do I do this when my subtentions are different and I can not tell what they are?
2. The target is moving and I dial down for better FOV. What are my leads for the moving targets now?
3. I dial down for mirage. How do I know what leads and hold overs to use?

With front focal plane:
Its all the same and no need to change. reticle works across the board.

Now only a sniper/hunter for 25 years but it should only take one or two trips off static range to kow this.

Please dont insult someone because you dont understand.

Lastly on the NXS. They are damm fine scope. Optis are super clear. They are great deal for Bench rest and Static shooting but lack front focal plane for field use on non static things. The dominate static target shooting because they are best for money in that field. Just not what all the "operators" want. If NXS comes out with FFP look out, it will be hard to beat.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:47 AM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

Just think of it as the christmas fruit-cake.

david
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:49 PM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

tactical, the other post was closed and I did not want to get into the same thing again. But I can personally attest Pete is an honest and true guy, the kind that unfortunately is everytime harder to find around. If he posted some info it is because it was true .
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:15 PM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

ALG, my post is in complete support of Pete. He is great guy. My negative side of my post was directed at the guy who attacked him.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:37 PM
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Re: Schmidt & Bender PMII failure rate.

Also if it was not clear my post was directed to Grizzz, post777, S1, THE DOCTOR or which ever other persona this idiot was using.

I reported it to the moderators because I saw the damage S1 & co did on other sites screwing up alot of good post to become a slanging match. That is not to say he did not have knowledge but it was not worth the agro.

I feel sorry for Thor his question got screwed.

The action taken by the moderators speaks for itself.

David.
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