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Old 01-02-2013, 09:29 AM
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Re: Saddle scabbards & target-turrets

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I have three scabbards all of which are now to short....end of scabbard to the bolt notch. The elevation and windage turrets stick out to far they won't even start to slip in and if they did they would rotate no doubt. There is a saddle shop there in town and was going to have something built but it has not been a priority with me as have not used the horses to hunt from in a couple years.

I would like to see what you come up with. The aluminum around the scope is that formed so the turrets have clearance and no pressure? I use the scabbards with the scope down and on the right they just ride better for me that way but with the turrets I think the scope probably should go up so no pressure on the elevation knob and that would put the rifle on the left.

Post some pictures when it's finished or PM me if you want

I've been looking at the Vortex HS LR scope simply because it has a capped windage knob that is about three quarters of a inch and the uncapped elevation knob is only an inch. That's about half the size of the ones I use now.

Yes, the aluminum and the neoprene will form a pocket for the side turrets---the elevation turret is no issue. I used to make (and still do) pistol holsters and i always sandwiched aircraft grade thin aluminum in between the two leathers. This keeps the form of the pistol. I can make them as long as you want but I don't think it will be able to incorporate a front bipod without being very bulky. The photos are of a scabbard I made for a guy that wanted it to mount on an ATV and he also wanted a sling so that he could carry it like a quiver. It has a 50mm scope on it. The long range scabbard will be made out of natural tooling leather so that I can mold it and tool it---this one is made out of latigo and it is hard to mold as well as stamp plus the glue won't hold with the layers.
I'll post some photos as I make it. I asked a local guy to use his long range rig (he is right handed, I am lefthanded) for a prototype (i wanted a right handed bolt for a model) and I said I'd give him the scabbard with I'm done and he said, "okay." Duh.
His rifle is a custom built 7mm with a nightforce so I think it will be a good example.
As a sidenote, the other photo is of a dog collar that I make for the local sheepherder dogs---pyranees and ackbashes---they are made so the wolves can't go for the necks. They actually work great but then the wolves figured it out and started gutting the dogs. These collars have been on some dogs for over 3 years and the leather has held up great---that is what I use for the scabbards and I finish them with natural neetsfoot oil.



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Old 01-02-2013, 11:45 AM
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Re: Saddle scabbards & target-turrets

First let me apologize to the OP for kinda high jacking his thread but he should find this stuff interesting also.

I like what I see here. Looks like you do quality work. My favorite scabbard and it's about wore out has a notch on the side that the bolt slides into then the flap comes around and tucks under the bolt locking the rifle so it can't move forward or backward. Mainly keeps the barrel crown from riding against the bottom of the scabbard.

What I have noticed with friends who sling their scabbards with scope up is the scabbard has a tendency to want to roll away from the horse because of the weight of the scope high and that's the main reason I have always slung it with scope down with the bolt handle away from the horse. A couple of guys I used to hunt with added another keeper strap to the scabbard near the top on both sides and it seemed to fixed the problem.

One thing I'm wondering about is where the windage turret rides will probably get a lot of wear over time. Will the neoprene hold up or could a piece of leather be incorporated right there on the inside of the aluminum??

We have had no trouble with wolves here yet. A neighbor runs about 500 goats to keep the bad weeds down all around here and has had no incident with wolves. Will mention your collar to her.


Anyway thanks for posting the pictures they are great. Will be very interested to see how the prototype goes together.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:40 PM
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You have the outside leather, then the the aluminum which will be about the size of the scope, then the neoprene, and finally the lining leather which will be next to your rifle and scope. All would be cemented with barge cement which is waterproof itself. My idea of adding the thin neoprene would be for shock absorption as well as waterproofness. Most quality holsters have a lining inside to protect the finish. I used to be a deputy sheriff for a large sheriffs department and I made alot of holsters for the guys using the aluminum support in between the leathers and I have never known them to wear out---and we drew our sidearms alot. I found a photo at work of a scabbard I did for my brother. This is what the finish looks like with neatsfoot oil. This is a rem 700, 338 ultra with a regular leupold on it. What I will do for the bigger scopes with target turrets is after I get the scabbard all cemented, I'll wet the leather, mold the scope turret areas and it will hold the "pouch" so to speak as it dries but the aluminum will add to the structure of the "pouch." His rifle is a number 4 contour but I can make the scabbard bigger for bigger rifles. As long as the cow is big enough, I can make it.

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Re: Saddle scabbards & target-turrets

Been following this thread, good stuff here. I too have slung the scabbard scope down to prevent the "roll down" effect as well.
Randy~ wonderful craftsmanship indeed, and you may very well solve this problem. Two questions...1) Can I get a collar like that for the wife , and 2) Have you ever made a long, 57", soft carry case out of tanned hide and neoprene inside. Pulling your chain on the first question, but serious on the second..
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:22 PM
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Yeah now I like this one. The notch stops the forward movement of the rifle. The way you have this one rigged is perfect with the scope down but put the scope up kinda like the picture shows that keeper strap that holds the rigging near the bolt needs to be very near the top and on both sides. It would not hurt to have two keeper straps on each side.

The rifle that I want the scabbard for is about 32 inches from the crown to the bolt. That is probably pretty standard as it is a 26 inch barrel #5.

You said it's more of a hobby but when you get the first one done maybe we could talk about building me one. I saw that Broz is chomping at the bit also. He knows a good thing when he sees it.

Anyway looking good!! Keep us posted.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:22 PM
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Been following this thread, good stuff here. I too have slung the scabbard scope down to prevent the "roll down" effect as well.
Randy~ wonderful craftsmanship indeed, and you may very well solve this problem. Two questions...1) Can I get a collar like that for the wife , and 2) Have you ever made a long, 57", soft carry case out of tanned hide and neoprene inside. Pulling your chain on the first question, but serious on the second..
Joel, yes, I can make a collar for your wife and then attach a chain to it. My money would be on her...................
Never made a soft case but I probably could. It really doesn't matter what length.

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Old 01-02-2013, 11:54 PM
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Re: Saddle scabbards & target-turrets

Where was this post a year ago when I was looking for solutions. Timing is everything. These look great.
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