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Old 01-14-2006, 11:14 PM
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S&B variable scopes

Hello. I'm interested in learning your experiences and opinions about Schmidt scopes. Specifically, I am considering their 3-12x42 standard variable with a custom installed BDC. Want to put this scope on a 300 Dakota... will probbaly not shoot past 400, and only then when conditions don't exceed my limited talents.
After scanning a year's worth of posts in the optics section of this forum, it seems there is some question about whether a S&B rig will hold up to larger recoil, and also whether it will present value in proportion to the price. Also, I am interested in finding whether the FFP design obscures game at distance in the field. It seems as though it won't, but I've only used SFP scopes, specifically the Kahles American line, Leupold Mk4, and Leupold LR VX3s in 4.5-14 and 6.5-20, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 01-15-2006, 03:37 AM
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Re: S&B variable scopes

pete7mm,

I only have experience with the S&B PMII scopes.
mildot or P4 reticle subtension is cca 7.4mm at 100m. In practice - a aiming mark of 1/2 MOA is fine for me.

No problems with a PMII with 6-7 years of use.

David.
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Old 01-15-2006, 03:40 AM
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Re: S&B variable scopes

Pete, the question about S&B standing up to recoil was raised by some idiot who was on here and other web sights trying to cause a bunch of trouble a few weeks back.
Let me tell you straight.
Schmidt & Bender scopes are the finest in the world and are the ONLY scopes i use these days, and are the only scopes i'db trust my life to without question.
The 3-12x42 is an excellent scope, i would advise the magnum eye relief version.
you will have about 500m worth of elevation capability with the old style PM turrets. if you need to have more than that, it is possible to have the BDC made without a stup giving you more than one revolution, and thus more elevation, but the flip side of the coin is that you have to keep your eye on exactly which revolution you are.
I would suggest you also look at the PMII line of scopes, they are the worlds best.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:05 AM
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Re: S&B variable scopes

Further to the question of FFP reticles, the subtention of the reticle is the same in coverage of target no matter what magnification, yes the reticle appears to change in size, but in relation to the target it stays exactly the same. giving you the ability to range with it on any magnification setting.
Depending on desired application of the scope, there are several reticle choices available..

David. this is a direct quote from the S&B construction tech in an email i recieved earlier this week:
"Pete, sorry for not answering earlier to the e-mail correspondence you forwarded to us. But the answer I have now was propably worth the delay:

I kept bugging the decision making guys here and now we have a final decision: The fine P4 reticle will be put into realization! As it looks now you will be able to have a look at it at this year's IWA (I guess you will attend the show?). Do you think the crosshair coverage of the Klein Reticle would be okay?"

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the pressure and direct( and boy where they direct) emails i send to Mr Bender must have paid off
I suggest we wait for your 2nd 5-25 with just that ret, ?
my 4-16x42PMII will be in for a ret change to Thin ( Pete Lincoln) P4 just as soon as they tell me its on.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:25 AM
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Re: S&B variable scopes

Hi Pete,

Great news. Ok, lets wait of the thin P4 in the other scope. I know it will be worth it.....and thanks for making this happen.

David
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Old 01-16-2006, 09:04 PM
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Re: S&B variable scopes

YOU CAN USE A SCHMIDT SCOPE TO DRIVE NAILS WITH AND IT WON'T HURT IT, THEY ARE GOOD AS THEY COME
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Old 01-17-2006, 03:12 PM
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Re: S&B variable scopes

This guy actually did use a Nightforce NXS to drive some nails into a 2x4, and noted no effect on the zero.

http://www.snipercountry.com/InRevie...htforceNXS.asp

FWIW, [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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