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Old 01-17-2003, 10:07 AM
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RETICLE?

What type of reticle would you advise to anyone starting out shooting long range.
(500 TO 1000 PLUS YARDS).
and also your choice in scopes..
Thanks...Keith..
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Old 01-17-2003, 10:31 AM
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Re: RETICLE?

Let me be the first...

Nightforce 5.5-22x56 with NP-R2 reticle.

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Old 01-17-2003, 10:46 AM
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Re: RETICLE?

Keith

I like the Leupold 8 1/2 X to 25X with the side wheel focus and 30 MM tube.

I also like a Dot in my view for placement on the animal or for target shooting. It works best for me.

I like a clear view of my target and the small dot allows this. I really don't like to see a bunch of circles, lines or obstruction in my field of view through the scope. Some like this, But I don't. I guess it's what you get use to.

The Leupold LR also has enough elevation clicks to get you where you want to go at the ranges you mentioned.

You can find this scope for around $650.00 in some places.
For the quality of the scope and warrenty provided, it is hard to beat in that price range or a scope of higher cost.
The optics have excellent clarity.

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Old 01-17-2003, 11:04 AM
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Re: RETICLE?

Like Darryl, I don't like alot of lines and stuff which can "hide" my target. I like a fine crosshair duplex. A dot would be a great second choice. Be careful of heavy duplex crosshairs as they will cover too much of your target at long range. I am also looking into the Burris Electro dot which they put into their hunting scopes. Would be a help in low light, dark background conditions. Mil dot reticle are a great alternative too (not cluttered as other reticles and can help in quick adjustments in aiming).

As to scopes, I let my budget decide. Scopes like the Nightforce are very good but muchos bucks. I lean towards the Bausch and Lomb 4000/4200series and most on this site will use Leupolds. IOR is getting popular and well priced for the features.

I personally LR hunt with my 6X24 Elite 4000 scope. I shim the scope (Burris sig rings)and base so that I have the full amount of elevation to use. There is only 26min of adjustment so shimming is a given. With most magnums, you only need 20 to 24min to get from 100yds to 1000yds. I set my scopes up with a 200yd zero and have had no problem dialing up to 1000yds. Excellent and repeatable knobs, very good optics and well priced. The other members of this product line have higher amounts of adjustment.

I also have experience with the "Tasco" super snipers from SWFA. I love my 10X for its repeatability, ruggedness, and amount of adjustment. Optics are good but not perfect. For the money, they are the best scope with over 100min of adjustment.

The next best is the new Elite 3200 10X. Very good design, compact, light, very nice mil dot reticle, pretty good optics. With about 80 min of elev. adj and under $200 retail, a great entry level scope. Mine doesn't move 1/4 MOA clicks but it is consistent and repeatable.

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Old 01-17-2003, 11:56 AM
 
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I'm with STL_Shooter......

Nightforce with NP-R2 reticle.
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Old 01-17-2003, 04:30 PM
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Re: RETICLE?

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I tried the spotter system with the R2 and was always BETWEEN the 2 MOA lines going after the target.

This called for an adjustment just like the dot or fine cross hair does. I don't like counting lines in the scope either. I would rather click to the range and use the spotter
because of the extended range we normally set up to shoot.

Maybe ONE line is "very fine" in the R2, but put 15 of them in a row verticlly and I most certainly have a problem seeing what I want to. Add the windage marks left and right of the verticle lines and now you even have less view.

Like I mentioned, some use the R2 and like it, but for the newbie and this OLD guy, I would suggest the spotter system and the dot or fine cross hair hands down compaired to 15 Horizontal lines in a verticle plane, to the new shooter.

You have your way and I have mine and both will work, but for "ME" and any suggestion I make to a newbie it will always be the dot of cross hair and spotter system. I'm quite sure we can both teach a new shooter our ways and let him decide what he prefers.

I've tried your way and didn't like it at all. I've had others shoot my rifle and look at the R2 and they didn't like it either.

That doesn't make me right and you wrong and vise-versa.

I guess you could say it's "our" way of doing or accomplishing the same thing.

To any newbie, sorry if we have confused you.

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DC, I think he was refering to using the reticle as reference to where your spotter round went, then clik it.
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