Originally Posted by cummins cowboy
even the nightforce np r1 is way more complicated than it needs to be, DIALING FOR ELEVATION AND HOLDING OFF FOR WIND is the way to go, even for tactical shooters, I am somewhat surprised there is such demand for these crazy reticles. then again alot of tactical market is monkey see monkey do and more about looks than how well it functions.
the horus reticle doesn't make a whole lot of sense, if you have a scope with some easy to use target turrets.
all we need is a duplex reticle with MOA wind hold offs, thats it, its that simple fineatto. the huskemaw reticle is the one I think of as being perfect, as it offers some ranging abilities but isn't near as cluttered as the graybull scope.
leupold does offer m5 adjustments in some scopes which is .1 mil which is almost 1/3moa.
if you have a good turret setup you don't need ANY marks on the vertical crosshairs. I am still trying to figure out why there are marks on the crosshairs on the top vertical wire. I also think a FFP reticle would be best as well.
There really are alot of uses for the moa reticle and having marks on the vertical wire.
First off, some of us used to make long range shots way before rangefinders were available and those marks on the vertical wire really help with ranging and holdover..................these electronic devises don't always work 100% of the time, whereas the reticle will always be there.
Secondly, there's a ton of scopes out there that don't track with the adjustments the way they should or the way they advertise. I've lost count of the scope I've personally seen that don't move the poi the advetised amount.
If we can hold 10 and only have to dial an additional 1 or 2, we're way better off sometimes (if we happen to own one of those bad trackers).
Third, even if you're using a rangefinder, we can better estimate the size of our target by a simple calculation using the reticle. Just because someone is hitting rocks at 1100 yds, doesn't mean they're gonna connect on a rockchuck or coyote at that distance............the rock might be 3' tall!!! only way to know for sure is to go look at it up close, or use the hash marks to calculate it's height.
These are just a few of the reasons to have a moa scope with marks on both the vertical and horizontal wire..........more than "monkey see monkey do".