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Unread 05-28-2008, 11:15 PM
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475, Thats exactly what I was thinking. Advertising dollars speak very loud.
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Unread 05-29-2008, 01:31 AM
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Ok, I found the section on the NXS. The reviewer said it was mainly a "military" scope with some "crossover application" to hunting, and implied it was too big and heavy for most hunting...and also the image wasn't as bright as his favored Nikon Monarch. He was, however, favorably impressed with its 100+ MOA elevation range.

I suppose this is a fair review in a naive general hunting mag, but I doubt the NXS image is less bright than a Nikon Monarch.
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Unread 06-01-2008, 05:19 PM
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Some years ago an outdoor writer for Field & Stream took a bunch of binoculars to an optics lab and had them scientifically tested for resolution, light transmission, etc. The tests did not address durability, ergonomics, and a few other factors that go into making a good binocular. However, I'd certainly like to see a gun mag go to an optics lab with an assortment of rifle and spotting scopes. Then we might get some hard numbers that would provide a less subjective basis for comparison.
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Unread 06-01-2008, 07:51 PM
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I didn't like their rifle tests either. Or shotgun tests. They didn't give anything to compare them to each other. Didn't have accuracy listed fro some guns, weight, etc.
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Unread 06-02-2008, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jwp475 View Post
Ever notice that the scope companies that spend a lot on advertising in Outdoor Life Mag never get a lowwer rating even when compared to scopes much better optics?
I stopped reading Outdoor Life and Field & Stream about 30 years ago. The more I got into the *real* world of Hunting, Fishing, Shooting and Outdoors, the more cheezy their articles looked to me.

They live off of advertizing... not good to bite the hand that feeds you...

Never put any stock into a review that accepts $$$ from a sponser, etc.

I listen to real folks, like the ones in these forums. Everyone has some personal preferences but overall, if you read and listen to enough opinions, you see trends and can usually makes some good judgements. There are a handfull of scopes at the very top of the pile and NF is one of them. I have looked through them and they seem to be of excellent optical quality, but that is only one of their outstanding features. And I am getting one.

90% of the scopes on store shelves would be totally ruined by the tests that NF scopes go through.

IMHO, in the long range game (500 yds +), which I am totally new to, you want a scope like a NF, USO, S&B, etc.

I have come to the conclusion, that over 400 yds I will range and dial, and a lot of production *good quality* scopes just do not have the reliable tracking and repeatability of the scopes that are specically designed for that.

BTW, I believe the 6500 has a 30mm tube. Probably a great scope, but not one I would use over 500 yds. JMO
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Unread 06-02-2008, 12:15 PM
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You could write books on what the rag writers leave out. The dollars that flow in from the products they review will put a spin on the data so “caveat emptor” my friends!!
The Truth Is Not Always Good For Business!!
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Unread 06-02-2008, 09:36 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me that the Nikon might transmit more light. And if the Nikon came with all the other features the NXS has, we all might be using Nikon's. I've performed some side by side scope comparisons in the past and rated some lower priced scopes higher in light transmission than my more expensive IORs and at the time, a Leupold LPS. If light transmission had been the sole determining factor, I would have sold my more expensive scopes for the lower cost ones, but I'm still using my 3-18x IORs and a Zeiss.

I've looked through some Nikon scopes and binoculars and been favorably impressed with the optics, especially considering their moderate cost.
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