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An Optics Conundrum: What would you do?

 
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:35 AM
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An Optics Conundrum: What would you do?

Hi All,

I've been reading up on here for quite some time now. I hunt primarily deer with my 20" .308 build. I just started extending my range with the rifle... have been shooting steel to 1000 yards for about a month (can you say new addiction...) and just figured out we can go as far as a mile (my buddy's .338 LM can, I obviously won't with the .308).

My hunting/shooting buddy has asked me to help him invest 5k into optics for his .308 build and around the type of hunting/shooting we do. I am also upgrading from my Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50...too heavy and would like a little bit lower bottom end magnification for the majority of my deer hunting. If I could shave a pound off the NXS and 1x off the bottom end, I would have damn near my perfect rifle/optic combo.

So far, this is what I'm leaning toward recommending (with alternatives and questions for y'all listed where I've done some research):

Rangefinder: Leica 1600. Which model? (b, crf, etc., he does bow hunt also if that affects the decision) $800

Rifle Optic:

Can I get away with a bulletproof, low-magnification NXS (10x top end) on deer at 800 yards (steel @ 1000 yards) with very good eyes, a good spotter and spotting scope? Please feel free to elaborate on your answer here, I know it is a loaded question.

Nightforce NXS Compact 2.5-10x42 (20 oz) $1900.
March 2.5-25x42 SFP(19 oz) $2600 (Does anyone know what magnification the reticle is intended for ranging at? haven't been able to find that)
March 3-24x42 FFP similar specs and price (not sure about the reticle at low power, please let me know if you have experience hunting with either)

Other robust, light (~20oz), mechanically-reliable suggestions with a low end of 3x or preferably less and enough magnification/glass quality/resolution to reach out?

Spotting Scope: Vortex Razor HD 20-60x85 (straight or angled? does it matter?) $1600

Binoculars? (I left these until last because I've never hunted with them until recently). I recently got to look through a pair of Swarovskis (not sure which model) and was stunned. Do they ever pop up used with a decent discount?

Soooo...What would you do? (and why...not set on this part if you just want to hit and run with awesome options). Thanks everyone,

Adam
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:11 PM
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Re: An Optics Conundrum: What would you do?

...just read that the March SFP Mil scopes are intended for ranging at 10x. Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 05-14-2014, 01:37 PM
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Re: An Optics Conundrum: What would you do?

Can't speak for any of the equipment but I'll pass my thoughts on as to the scope power. If shooting at coyote or antelope, at 600 yards, I find a 16 power is too low. Deer it's probably fine. Then again, I like the high end powers. I worry more about the low end and VOF than high power.
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Old 05-14-2014, 02:04 PM
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Re: An Optics Conundrum: What would you do?

Thank you for contributing jrock.

I do realize that I definitely prefer less magnification than most since I grew up shooting irons for so long. That said, I think I'm going to stay with the 3.5-15 x 50 NXS. I can deal with the bottom end and the weight.

I think we decided Leica 1600-B CRF for the rangefinder...unless anyone is willing to push me to the Swaro... Buddy isn't in a rush for the scope...

Still open to any input . Thanks all...
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:20 AM
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Re: An Optics Conundrum: What would you do?

I have killed an antelope over 1,000 yards with a 3.5-15 NXS-It worked just fine.
Scope was more than adequate for big game at that distance.
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:07 AM
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Re: An Optics Conundrum: What would you do?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernie View Post
I have killed an antelope over 1,000 yards with a 3.5-15 NXS-It worked just fine.
Scope was more than adequate for big game at that distance.
Good to know
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:31 AM
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Re: An Optics Conundrum: What would you do?

I would add, back in the day I took a muley buck at 700 yards with a 4x Leupold.
This one and the one using the NXS were both single-shot specialty pistols.
You can do a lot with less
That being said, I use the 6.5-20/6-24 the most.
I have been known to shoot further than 1K on occassion.
I do have a 4-16 on one of my primary LR rigs though.
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