Nightforce MLR Reticle

[Takman]

Not to steal this thread but hopefully add, Lerch, what are your thoughts on the NP-R1 vs 2 for mule deer and elk out to a 1000 or so?

[dbhostler]

I have a MLR reticle in a 8-32X56 and for long range hold over shooting an R1 would be more precise. It's the old Milliradian vs Minute of Angle arguement, and that being 1 mil equals 3.6" @ 100yds whereas 1 moa equals 1" @ 100. The adjustments on all Nightfoce scopes are in MOA reguardless of what reticle you have and dialing in will give you 1/4 MOA vs 1 MOA even with the R1.....Makes a greater difference the farther out you go. Personally I range it and dial in rather than hold over. By the way, 1 mil @ 1k equals about 36", 1 /4 MOA @ 1k equals 2 1/2".
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[daj]

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The adjustments on all Nightfoce scopes are in MOA reguardless of what reticle you have......

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Not so. Mil adjustments are also available. I have the MLR reticle, mil adjustments with 0.1 mil clicks.

[dbhostler]

Yeah, I believe you are right now that I think about it. When I began using my new MLR Nightforce scope, the adjustments on paper just didn't make since if I had a mil scope. I called the factory and Frank, I believe that was his name, told me the scope was set up for MOA even though it had a mil reticle. He recommended I send the scope in and have the reticle changed to an R1 or they could set it up to adjust in mils. He made a good argument for MOA in that it's easier to think in MOA than in mils. But for $120, I'll just keep what I have.
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[jwp475]

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I have a MLR reticle in a 8-32X56 and for long range hold over shooting an R1 would be more precise. It's the old Milliradian vs Minute of Angle arguement, and that being 1 mil equals 3.6" @ 100yds whereas 1 moa equals 1" @ 100. The adjustments on all Nightfoce scopes are in MOA reguardless of what reticle you have and dialing in will give you 1/4 MOA vs 1 MOA even with the R1.....Makes a greater difference the farther out you go. Personally I range it and dial in rather than hold over. By the way, 1 mil @ 1k equals about 36", 1 /4 MOA @ 1k equals 2 1/2".
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1/4 MOA at 1K is 2.618 inches not 2.5....One Minute of angle at 100 yards is 1.0472 inches. This is important to remember,because as you dial correction at a distance these difference add up. Example a 20 Minute of angle corection with 1/4 Moa adjustment needs 80 cliks the difference in 80 clicks in MOA and one in IPHY's is 9.44 inches at 1K. The difference between one MOA at 1K and One quarter is .118 inches per click times 80 clicks equals an aiming error at 1k of 9.44 inches

[dbhostler]

Yea, you're right, I stand corrected again. In nontechnical terms, MOA is generally spoken as 1" @ 100 yards. And that's usually the way many of us view it. It's like the speed of light, the distance to the Sun or the weight of the Earth, usually rounded up or down. When target shooting at 1K you are usually given time to sight in. Good thing for me at least. When long distance hunting, I like the idea that some have, range the distance, make the adjustments and take a sighting shot. Tells you weather you're on or not. Lots of variables, but when you're on, 1K really isn't too far away.
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