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A Nightforce Experience

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Unread 06-09-2009, 04:18 AM
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Re: A Nightforce Experience

Heh, well you disagree but also agree. No single illumination setting is going to be optimum, or even helpful, in all conditions. Anybody trying to tell you it will be is trying to sell you something. This is one of the nicest things about their 2.5-10 for general hunting IMHO.

But more importantly, my meaning was it doesn't always have to be very dark at all for some people to want a thicker reticle. The only times I've ever thought a thinner one would be nice is on sunny summer days shooting at nicely white painted or papter targets. Never when hunting. I have found myself on the dark side of a mountain actually in the timber wishing the reticle was thicker, even in the middle of a sunny day. In conditions like that there is enough light the illuminated reticle does you no good. If you want a thicker reticle, having illumination doesn't fix it.

Now in the same conditions, some will be fine with a thin reticle. That's fine, everybody is different and has their own preferences. And of course many here don't do any "walk around hunting" at all so quickness may not ever be an issue. That's fine too. My only point was one is not a replacement for the other in all conditions for those who want it.

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    Unread 06-18-2009, 12:33 AM
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    Roy -

    Thanks for the nice write up - I noticed the bump on the web site and saw it came from here. One small correction - at 300 yds, the correction is about 2.5 MOA. Sorry I didn't turn on the light in the scope for you - you've taken too much heat on that one. For what it's worth, you were shooting Hornady AMAX.
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    Roy -

    Thanks for the nice write up - I noticed the bump on the web site and saw it came from here. One small correction - at 300 yds, the correction is about 2.5 MOA. Sorry I didn't turn on the light in the scope for you - you've taken too much heat on that one. For what it's worth, you were shooting Hornady AMAX.
    I sure didn't look like the smartest guy in the world either, did I?

    I take a lot of heat about a lot of things. This is a fun place to lounge.

    The order for the scope is going in. The only difference from yours will be 22x max and 1 MOA windage marks.

    thanks, again

    Roy
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    I really like the Nightforce NXS scopes to me they are one of the best scopes on the market for the price.

    I would recommend the 5.5-22x50mm at the high Iím just not a fan of the 8-32x56mm or the 12-42x56mm for a hunting scope they are great for BR shooting.

    If we can be of help in getting any scope especially Nightforce feel free to ask we try to keep them in stock.

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    Unread 06-18-2009, 08:40 PM
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    Was at the range yesterday doing some final tuning.

    A fella shows up with a Savage F-Class factory rifle with a Nightforce 8-42 X 56.

    The fella and his buddy were doing some shooting @ 100 yds. Hmmm, I figured a lot of scope for 100 yd work.

    They were friendly and offered without my asking if I wanted to shoot it. (the tongue hanging out may have been a bit of an indicator)

    I need a scope for a build and have been torn at the point where the money leaves the pocket. That now seems to be pretty much decided........I hope

    First test. after setting it up for my good eye, was to crank it up to 42 power and be nicely surprised that it was just as clear at max power than any other power. I'm used things fizzling out above about 75 or 80 % of maximum. Other than the field of view shrinkage I found no fault with clarity change w/power change.

    Next test was to determine if 22X would be sufficient for my needs. I cranked 'er to R which is where the reticle is calibrated. About the time I was looking through the scope a small local bird that is about 3/4 the size of a robin landed on a twig at something well over 1200 yards.

    There was no problem whether to shoot at the head or body of the little bird. (Dream on Roy). The scope would certainly handle that job.

    The only catch 22 is the reticle. It may well be perfect for shooting in day light, but may be a bit thin (for my good eye) as light dims. From the varied cloud cover of the day, I would guestimate if it were too dark to see the reticle it would be well beyond shooting time.

    I shot at 100, 200 and 300. As I changed distances the owner cranked clicks. He knew his rifle. It was spot on at each distance. However, I'm not used to a 6 moa adjustment from 100 to 300 yards. (The 308 ain't quite a 270 AM).

    Elevation graduation were 1 moa and 2 moa for windage. I'd think I'd be more comfortable with 1 moa windage stadia. I also don't think I'd have any problem descerning 1/2 or even 1/4 MOA elevation holds if it should become necessary.

    Results of the evaluation is that even though two "just as good as" scopes can be had for the price of one NXS, the limited choice of reticles and a little personal queasieness is the deal breaker.

    A little about that Savage. Pretty sweet and what a shooter. However, that nifty triggerand I didn't get along at all. The owner said it was set at 7 oz which would have been great, for me, without the two stage thing. The old Remmy 2oz trigger on the 40Xs are only a dim memory. This trigger is really great other than my not being used to it.
    there is no doubt that nightforce makes a great scope. BUT calling it top of the line is a bit out of place. Now you can say that dollar for dollar it is the best but anyone who has shot a Schmidt-Bender masterpiece will tell, there is no comparison between a Nightforce and a Schmidt-Bender scope. The quality of the optics in the S-B scope is exceptional with nothing really comparable. They are however very expensive which might make you look seriously at the nightforce.

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    Bob,

    I hear what you're saying.

    Comparing a S&B to anything is beyond my comprehension.

    I was eying a Lotus Elice the other day but I still drive a Zuki Side Kick.

    So much good stuff and so little money.
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    Roy dont worry about that little light thingie.....you know how to dial the important knobs and that is what counts. I find the lighted reticule almost useless anyway....by the time I need it legal shooting light is gone anyway.
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