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Unread 07-20-2003, 08:21 PM
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Re: New Leupold vs. Burris

Quote by; Jay Gorski-
Subsonic, You did say 8x56, right, the 56mm objective is the reason you can pull so much light in, american scope makers don't make 56mm objectives, cause we can't hunt legally at night where a huge objective might come in handy, as they do in europe, that why europeon scope makers produce the 56mms. My son's Burris 6-24X-44mm w/Mil-dot reticle on top of his 22-250 is an excellent scope as far as brightness, clarity, etc. and is one of my favorite scopes, It'll compare against any europeon scope, I'm certain of that. Jay
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I liver in the USA and hunting at night or low light conditions is very important.. what do you mean we can't hunt at night> Where you from? We hunt Coyotes at night or early mornings and late evgs...
Deer is not the only game on earth my friend...

We NEED 56mm scopes here like REAL bad... setting up to hunt Yotes when it starts to get dark and the yotes are comming out at around 6pm... you need EVERY little bit you can... at 450 yards out, I need my 6.5-20x50mm Leopold turned up...
at this time of day and with 19x a 50mm will kill a 40mm.... a 56mm will kill a 50mm... as long as they have simuler quality optics..
I've compared a Nightforce 8-32x56 to my leopld at around 20x and the Nightforce is a little sharper and brighter... at 10x they are close..

scott

I don't understand why scope makers are stuck in the dark ages, by god make us some 80mm scopes and qite ripping us off...... make us some rings to fit em on our rifles..

There is lots of game to hunt in low light conditions... even Deer can be hunted at dusk and dawn, where they come out the most.
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    Donham if you want an 80mm objective all you have to do is place an order with U.S. OPTICS they will even give you a 35mm tube or bigger. But you will pay for it [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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    Burris scopes do appear brighter and seem to have better color rendition than others under $1000. It is not really a brightness issue that a light meter could read, I think. That said, the gun tests light meter test sounds like BS to me, but what do I know.

    I bought the Burris XTR because I thought it was the best under $800 tactical scope. It went back twice for issues. Now it is fine.

    Larry and I didn't see eye to eye on this one, but he did get it figured out.
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    Things have changed in the past 18 months. I bought a 8.5-24 Leupold M4 with a dealer discount, and the dealer deal now requires stocking dealers only. And the Military and Police discounts are only on the high end tactical or long range models. So I guess my days with Leupold are over. Nice product, but they are fallible. A brand new 6.5-20x40 had parallax adjustment issues, and although they repaired it, I paid shipping. I also hav an old 20x fine cross hair scope I bought in the 80's on my 222 Sako.

    Getting on to the Burris issue... I recently bought a Ruger Predator 6.5 Creedmoor, and decided that perhaps a better scope than the cheapos that I have been putting on many of my rifles would be in order. Altough they are adequate for up to 200 yards, at 300 and beyond the contrast ratio starts to take a pretty severe hit. Seeing .22 cal bullet holes becomes very difficult even at 24x. 30 cal holes are there, but fuzzy.

    Set my mind to buying a scope under $400 that would have decent optics... meaning no chromatic or other aberrations. And a decent reticle with mil dot being my new requirement.

    Burris Fullfield II was one of my choices, and met the price constraints. But the reticle reminded me of a kindergarten cartoon. Thick lines at the edges that would distract from the field of view. And a mil dot center section that was just acceptable. The Fulfield E1 was a lot more at one dealer however found them at another much closer to my target price of $400. Prices recently dropped at many dealers I assume because they are going to introduce a new model. The E1 reticle makes a lot more sense, having a bullet drop reticle calibrated for 22-250 which will work well with the Creedmoor. I find the optics very acceptable and look forward to putting this shorter scope on my Sako Vixen or the Predator.

    Saving $350-$400 from the Leupold price tags is going to buy a lot of bullets primers and powder. Leupold needs to rethink their price structure.

    Burris is head and shoulders above the UTC/Leapers and BSA and many other scopes from China. Although many have impressive specifications exit pupil and optical quality are not there. Many manufacturers don't even specify exit pupil size... the mark of a better product.

    Good shooting

    Dave
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    Re: New Leupold vs. Burris

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    Things have changed in the past 18 months. I bought a 8.5-24 Leupold M4 with a dealer discount, and the dealer deal now requires stocking dealers only. And the Military and Police discounts are only on the high end tactical or long range models. So I guess my days with Leupold are over. Nice product, but they are fallible. A brand new 6.5-20x40 had parallax adjustment issues, and although they repaired it, I paid shipping. I also hav an old 20x fine cross hair scope I bought in the 80's on my 222 Sako.

    Getting on to the Burris issue... I recently bought a Ruger Predator 6.5 Creedmoor, and decided that perhaps a better scope than the cheapos that I have been putting on many of my rifles would be in order. Altough they are adequate for up to 200 yards, at 300 and beyond the contrast ratio starts to take a pretty severe hit. Seeing .22 cal bullet holes becomes very difficult even at 24x. 30 cal holes are there, but fuzzy.

    Set my mind to buying a scope under $400 that would have decent optics... meaning no chromatic or other aberrations. And a decent reticle with mil dot being my new requirement.

    Burris Fullfield II was one of my choices, and met the price constraints. But the reticle reminded me of a kindergarten cartoon. Thick lines at the edges that would distract from the field of view. And a mil dot center section that was just acceptable. The Fulfield E1 was a lot more at one dealer however found them at another much closer to my target price of $400. Prices recently dropped at many dealers I assume because they are going to introduce a new model. The E1 reticle makes a lot more sense, having a bullet drop reticle calibrated for 22-250 which will work well with the Creedmoor. I find the optics very acceptable and look forward to putting this shorter scope on my Sako Vixen or the Predator.

    Saving $350-$400 from the Leupold price tags is going to buy a lot of bullets primers and powder. Leupold needs to rethink their price structure.

    Burris is head and shoulders above the UTC/Leapers and BSA and many other scopes from China. Although many have impressive specifications exit pupil and optical quality are not there. Many manufacturers don't even specify exit pupil size... the mark of a better product.

    Good shooting

    Dave
    There's even more changes since OP posted it on 01-10-2003, 07:36 PM

    Nice dig nonetheless!
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