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Need some help clarifying Vortex Viper PST or HST

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Unread 11-03-2013, 04:38 AM
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Re: Need some help clarifying Vortex Viper PST or HST

I'm no expert but for long ranges I would buy the PST because of the FFP instead of the HS-T with a SFP. I have been looking for a long range scope and one of the recommendations I got for a budget scope was for a Falcon Menice scope. They have many where the reticle is in the FFP. (and at a very low price)
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Unread 02-10-2014, 06:02 AM
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Re: Need some help clarifying Vortex Viper PST or HST

I just bought the HS-T 4-16x44 with the MRAD reticle and adjustments, After playing around with one at the range I decided that was the scope i was going to buy.
I wanted Mil based Reticle with Mil adjustments, side focus and a Gen 2 or better reticle. It came down to a SWFA 3-15 or the Viper HS-T, and the Viper is 150$ cheaper. I would prefer the SWFA reticle with .2 mil hashmarks like the PST has.

Between the Two scopes the Viper PST FFP scope with the EBR-1 reticle and the HST with the VMR-1, the PST has the better reticle, its got the .2 hashmarks so accurate milling can be accomplished more easily than with the .2 subtended mark only on the half mil lines of the VMR-1.

Since you are talking about hunting out to 1,000 and you wont know the exact size of the animal you are looking at so you cant use the reticle to range estimate without a known size. you will need to pair it with a Laser rangefinder. to get a good estimate of antler/horn size the slight difference in reticle isnt a huge deal a quick flash mil of the animal along with the range from the laser should give you a good close guess. but if money was no option I certainly would prefer the PST reticle to the HST, but on that note I would prefer the Horus Tremor to both.

Now FFP to SFP, First has some advantages like you can use your holds at any power, as long as you can see that part of your reticle, that becomes a problem at high power if you start to lose sections of the reticle. Second focal is nice because the reticle doesnt get super small, and if you find what truly is half power on your power adjustment ring, not just what the numbers say, you can mil targets at half and even 1/4 power. But you have to be spot on. Find a target that mils to 10 on full power than back out to wherever it is a 5 mil target and you have found half power. mark it and then you can mil at that magnification.

at the end of the day Id say if you can afford the Viper PST buy it, if you cant the HS-T has most of the features of the PST, but not quite, they are both equipped with target turrets zero stops and both are the same length and very similar weight, the HST is slightly lighter, both are available in MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA so its really down to your preferences
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Unread 02-11-2015, 04:58 PM
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Re: Need some help clarifying Vortex Viper PST or HST

When checking prices for scopes, don't rule out I bought my Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP from there as a demo model. Saved me about $100 off the new one. When I got the scope, I honestly couldn't tell it was a demo. Everything but the scope was still in sealed packages. There wasn't a scratch or even finger prints on the scope. Anyways, hope that helps.
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Unread 02-12-2015, 10:33 AM
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Re: Need some help clarifying Vortex Viper PST or HST

might as well throw in the hslr ffp with the xlr reticle.
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