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Old 06-02-2009, 04:42 AM
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Need Opinion on Nikko Stirling Nighteater 10-50x60

Hey Guys

I am thinking of buying a Standard Howa Carbon Fibre Supreme in .223, it comes with a Nikko Stirling Nighteater 10-50x60 on top of it. Apart from it being complete overkill I was wondering what they were like as a scope?

The thing is it's very cheap in the package so I'm keen on buying it because they are worth around $850 NZ which is a lot more than i'd have to pay if I bought it complete with the rifle.

Any opinions are welcomed, I know Nikko Stirling arn't the best but if they are "acceptable" then i'll take it. It was lovely to look through (even on the higher powers) but it's things like reticle shift and the turrets moving acurately that concern me the most. Any help would be most appreciatted

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Re: Need Opinion on Nikko Stirling Nighteater 10-50x60

Mate, in the past I would not even put a Nikko Strling scope on a .22lr but like most scope makers they seem to have come a long way in a few years.

The night eater scopes are popular here in Aus, but beware of any copies from back yard mobs from other china companies, they copy Leupolds and other name brands. Do a bit of research on what you are buying and make a few phone calls to the local distributer to see if it is a real night eater scope!

Another thing to check is the mounts. On these cheep combo outfits the scope and mounts are not worth shite.

In my opinion, if you like the rifle then buy it. However don't be sucked into buying a rubbish scope and mounts. You would be better off to buy the bare rifle then save up and buy name brand scope and mounts as separate components.

Money is too hard to come by nowdays to throw it away on junk.
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Mate, in the past I would not even put a Nikko Strling scope on a .22lr but like most scope makers they seem to have come a long way in a few years.

The night eater scopes are popular here in Aus, but beware of any copies from back yard mobs from other china companies, they copy Leupolds and other name brands. Do a bit of research on what you are buying and make a few phone calls to the local distributer to see if it is a real night eater scope!

Another thing to check is the mounts. On these cheep combo outfits the scope and mounts are not worth shite.

In my opinion, if you like the rifle then buy it. However don't be sucked into buying a rubbish scope and mounts. You would be better off to buy the bare rifle then save up and buy name brand scope and mounts as separate components.

Money is too hard to come by nowdays to throw it away on junk.
The mounts and rings are weaver, the scope is genuine. It is from a very reputable local dealer who I know personally, just the scope i'm wondering about itself as I know that Nikko Stirling never used to be of very good quality but I believe that it has improved a lot since. I heard that a couple of Australians went over to Japan to oversee quality control as the scopes are so popular with roo hunters, don't know if thats truth though.
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Re: Need Opinion on Nikko Stirling Nighteater 10-50x60

Hi pahaoa,

Sounds like you have done the background work on this deal, well done.

Yes, Night Eater scopes are popular over here in Aus, with budget minded shooters but I don't know if many pro roo shooters who would ever use them. I think that would be a Kiwi Myth!!!

Pro Roo shooters are dependant on the quality of their equipment.

Most pro Roo shooters I know have only top flight rigs and can write them off on their tax returns each year, so it would not pay them to run cheep scopes. A scope failure could cost them a weeks income by the time the rifle is back up and working again. Remember they operate in remote locations and replacement scopes can be hard to come by. A weeks income to a Pro Roo Shooter is a few thousand dollars, so you can see why it may be a myth

The Aussie Pro Roo shooters as a whole, kill millions of Roos each year. It is hard for a recreational hunter to to comprehend the amount of killing that each one may do. Most Roos are shot in the head at night, anywhere from 50 to 200 yards. Each shooter will kill thousands of Roos each year.

A mate of mind bought a Nikko, Night Eater scope not long back, He put it on a .243 for general day time shooting and it seems to work OK but it lacks a bit in poor light.
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Hi pahaoa,

Sounds like you have done the background work on this deal, well done.

Yes, Night Eater scopes are popular over here in Aus, with budget minded shooters but I don't know if many pro roo shooters who would ever use them. I think that would be a Kiwi Myth!!!

Pro Roo shooters are dependant on the quality of their equipment.

Most pro Roo shooters I know have only top flight rigs and can write them off on their tax returns each year, so it would not pay them to run cheep scopes. A scope failure could cost them a weeks income by the time the rifle is back up and working again. Remember they operate in remote locations and replacement scopes can be hard to come by. A weeks income to a Pro Roo Shooter is a few thousand dollars, so you can see why it may be a myth

The Aussie Pro Roo shooters as a whole, kill millions of Roos each year. It is hard for a recreational hunter to to comprehend the amount of killing that each one may do. Most Roos are shot in the head at night, anywhere from 50 to 200 yards. Each shooter will kill thousands of Roos each year.

A mate of mind bought a Nikko, Night Eater scope not long back, He put it on a .243 for general day time shooting and it seems to work OK but it lacks a bit in poor light.
I think optically they are a great scope for the money, I have 2 friends with them, one on a .260 and one on a .223. They have good flat field of view with little distortion around the edges and are brighter at low light than my VX-1 Leupold, however they both leave there vari powers on the highest setting and once sighted in the left the turrets alone as well, due to not knowing if the point of impact will shift if they move them around. With my potencial scope having a 30mm tube instead of an inch and the fact that it has a 60mm objective instead of 40, i'm thinking it will be more than acceptable for my shooting.

As for the Kangaroo shooting, sounds like I should be there doing it as well , if it were me I wouldn't waste my time with a **** scope either, it'll be Nightforce or Swarovski all the way!

Can anyone tell me what the scope performs like at the range? because thats where things like reticle movement during vari power shifting and precise turret movements matter more than optical performance.
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Re: Need Opinion on Nikko Stirling Nighteater 10-50x60

I would avoid the carbon rifle as well as the scope.
One of the magazines here tested a carbon Howa and it would not group well at all.
I think that they may even be dropping that model because of accuracy issues with the carbon wrap barrel.
Nikko are cheap scopes and I had a friend using one on a 223 target rifle lose a lens in the midst of a match recently!
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I would avoid the carbon rifle as well as the scope.
One of the magazines here tested a carbon Howa and it would not group well at all.
I think that they may even be dropping that model because of accuracy issues with the carbon wrap barrel.
Nikko are cheap scopes and I had a friend using one on a 223 target rifle lose a lens in the midst of a match recently!
Well that's what I thought as well actually, both about the carbon fibre barrel and the Nikko Stirling scope, however...

The man behind the counter owns it himself and hes shown me a target from 100 yards, looked like a ragged hole of about 10mm and he assured me that was with the nikko scope and it was 5 shots. Also the same Nikko Stirling scope is on top of a lot of top target shooters from all disciplines. It is the top of the range Nikko so i'd assume that it is of quite good quality. With the same combo he has a confirmed kill at 392 yards, which is good enough for me. Any more opinions out there
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