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Mk4 zero stop, on the cheap... :o

 
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:39 PM
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Re: Mk4 zero stop, on the cheap... :o

I understand your logic Dan. I have never tried it so I have no personal experience. The reason I pointed it out is that I remember back then when DUH was having a real problem and he stated this was the cause. Then if I remember correctly a few other guys on here were having issues with their NXS's not returning to a dead on zero and they read this and removed the washers and all was good. Not trying to rain on your parade, just thought I would toss it out there in case anyone has a zero hold issue. I know over the years I have read many of DUH's posts and he is a very renowned long range hunter. So even if I didnt want to take NF's word for it I do trust what DUH and the other posted.

I know other scopes like the PST use this method, but I figuered there could be a difference in mechanical make up.

All I know is if your scope does not return to a perfect zero, your dial ups will be off too.

Carry on, and do what ever works for you.

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Re: Mk4 zero stop, on the cheap... :o

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I know... Those are the Weaver TacticaL rings, aluminum except for steel cross bolt and nut. Two of them weigh about what a steel Badger or Nightforce ring would weigh... so I just put 'em all four on there (originally was going to use just 3 ring, but 4 fit)...

Anyway... if one of the cross bolt nuts backs off no big deal... the scope won't lose zero.

Dan
I run the same rings and like them for the price but your in serious over kill land and you can damage a scope if you set rings that close to your turrets if your not real light with the torque wrench, just a friendly heads up!!
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I run the same rings and like them for the price but your in serious over kill land and you can damage a scope if you set rings that close to your turrets if your not real light with the torque wrench, just a friendly heads up!!
I don't over-tighten the rings, but that's a good point to make. I've seen folks dent scope tubes by going overboard with the wrench.

The original plan was to use 3 of these 4 Weaver rings, but since they all fit, I just put 'em all on there. :o Four ring systems are commonly used on heavy recoiling handgun scopes... and while I realize the 110BA with its 20 pound dead weight and muzzle brake is not a heavy recoiler, my main reason for using extra rings is that with a two ring system, all that has to happen to ruin your zero is for one of those two rings to loosen. Perhaps not likely, but it's possible... I'm sure many of us have had that happen...

I use liquid electrical tape, and bed the lower ring halves. It makes a very thin, rubbery layer that sticks the scope in place, and of course stands up to a lot of heat so it won't move... then just torque to whatever the ring manufacturer recommends... around 15 to 20 inch pounds or somewhere in that area.

On the Nightforce turrets... I would never disparage someone else's personal testimony and experience. Strange things happen in this world. I guess I would just want Nightforce to "tell it to me like I'm a six year old" why this can harm their turrets. If they can make it make sense, I'll consider it. If not, I'll likely continue to believe that they're just trying to justify charging us 200 dollars (up from 175) for a zero stop... :o

Scope manufacturers are pretty much like any other manufacturer out there... if they can find some reason to throw blame for a fault onto the user, and away from their product, they'll do it. Harley Davidson used to try to void warranty work if they found out you were using some other 20W50 motor oil (other than theirs)... so my guess is that Nightforce did find a problem with their scope, and fixed that... blamed it on the zero washers... and they probably sold the guy a 200 dollar zero stop in the bargain.

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