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Unread 02-10-2009, 02:43 PM
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Re: mad as h*ll range finding in the snow

I talked to several people in the Swarovski booth at SHOT show last month before finally getting to the lead technical guy who could actually answer this question. He told me the beam was not round and that it measured 2.2MILS wide by 0.5 MILS high. He also said that this was different than what is in the manual. I was surprised that nobody had a clue until I talked to this guy. I don't recall his name unfortunately.

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    Re: mad as h*ll range finding in the snow

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    I talked to several people in the Swarovski booth at SHOT show last month before finally getting to the lead technical guy who could actually answer this question. He told me the beam was not round and that it measured 2.2MILS wide by 0.5 MILS high. He also said that this was different than what is in the manual.
    Hmmmm, I see. Is there a way to test this??

    Maybe my friend and I both got bad ones. Mine is on its way back as we speak. I did confirm I have the latest and greatest they have to offer. My SN indicates mine was built in 2008. The tech I talked with also confirmed that the Swaro 8x30 laserguide came out in 2005 and has not been updated or improved since. Also that I am stuck with the hard to see huge reticule and display. I sent back my 8x30 bino's that fell apart too, but that is another story..

    I blamed the beam for not ranging that huge WT in kansas. It would toss back numbers like 890, 925, 1050, 912 etc and yes it was on a bipod. I thought I was getting ground, deer and the tree line behind since it was so flat. Maybe it was just my lemon rangefinder but I have never had the problem before. It usually repeats perfect if it is held solid. like it did a couple nights later with the doe on a hillside at 1137.

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    Re: mad as h*ll range finding in the snow

    I bought my Laser Guide in 2005 and have not had any problems with it. I emailed Swaro recently and just received a response as to whether there are any upgrades available for this unit and she said the same thing. The new ones are no different than the original.

    I just sent her a reply and asked her about the beam divergence and quoted their original response vs. the post above where the tech stated the difference in size of the beam.

    I'll let you know what their response is.
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    Re: mad as h*ll range finding in the snow

    I just got a reply back from Swarovski and this is what they said.

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    "The mrad is just what he told you at the shot show....2.2 mrad wide by .5 mrad high. ( Just so you know, I did go to the tech specialist that you spoke with for this information)."
    She referred to me as if I talked to the rep at the Shot Show but as you've read above, that's not the case.

    If what they told me about the size of the Leica beam is correct then the Swaro beam is rectangular just like the Leica although the Swaro is slightly smaller. Just because a brand/unit has a smaller aiming device doesn't necessarily mean it's tighter or more accurate evidently.

    What I'd recommend no matter which brand you use is to range using a dead solid rest and use the very center of the "reticle". That's what I do and it's worked so far.
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    Re: mad as h*ll range finding in the snow

    Well I stand corrected, thats what I get for reading the manual

    Thanks greentimber for the correct info and you too ss7mm. I really try to post accurate ifno. Now we know.

    The good news is that gives me a bit more hope for the Swaro. But I still am going to test all 3 mentioned.

    What I need to do is figure out where the screw is to increase the powder of the laser. The we may have one that kicks butt.

    Thanks!

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    Re: mad as h*ll range finding in the snow

    Anyone know who makes a mount to put a Nightforce for my rangefinder..
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    Re: mad as h*ll range finding in the snow

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    The new ones are no different than the original.
    ss7mm,
    you may recall when geargrinder offered to let me use his dad's swaro for last year's deer hunt. I spent 5 days using it in the field. Also as I mentioned before, I had been playing with the one at Sportsman's Warehouse. My Swaro I bought it on 1/27/2009, the first thing I noticed was the neck strap, they're different and adjust very nicely. I have been using this instrument for many days now and I'm very pleased with it. It ranges much faster, the display is a lot easier to see and I know I'm not having night mares. I'm not disagreeing with any one here, I'm just stating my experience for what ever is worth. The first day I used it, I was having problems with inconsistency in measured ranges, from time to time the range "31" would appear on the screen not making any sence. I went home disappointed thinking I would have to return it. Re-red the manual and decided to do some more testing. I moved away from electrical lines, big generators, areas with medical buildings, signal lights and a Hospital close by... etc. etc.
    I moved out of the city and my my... what a difference.
    I admit it's getting scary how much difference from one rangefinder to another, specially if they have not changed then it speaks pretty badly of swarovski's quality control.

    OK! I was not going to say it but I did also prayed over mine! I don't know how many of you guys would be willing to do that.
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