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Luopold VX-6 disapointment!!!

 
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:58 PM
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Re: Luopold VX-6 disapointment!!!

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put in perspective this takes my 243 ai from 1600 yard to 1800 yards. big deal who is shooting that far with pretty much anything.


I think the question becomes why do YOU need a 34mm tube. What about folks who are taking 338's, cheytacs, etc out to 2 miles, or me who takes there 22lr out to 500 yds. Its not that noone needs a larger tube, its that you dont need a larger tube (tube diameter effects more than travel, but thats another thread)

On to your issue. I hate leupold products with everything I possess. If I were commenting on them my post would be like sidecar's pretty much word for word, except Ive had horrible luck with their customer service. All that said anything man made can fail. I dont care if you paid 1300, or 8000 for the scope it can happen. To me what throws companies like leupold under the bus is how they deal with issues when they come up.
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:35 PM
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Re: Luopold VX-6 disapointment!!!

I've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly from Leupold. I broke a set of range finder binos my fault, and said so. They sent me a new pair. Hey great! Until like Sidecar says what's the mark up that they can do this? I've seen it more than once, and what really bites is how do you decide who gets a replacement, and who has to suck it up. Strange company trying to survive a strange world. Go figure, I can't.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:50 AM
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Re: Luopold VX-6 disapointment!!!

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The question I always ask is this.....What the hell difference WHERE the scope is made at as long as its 100% made correctly? Maybe made in Taiwan by off duty B-girls and if it isnt right THEN shipped to Po-Dunk California or wherever and corrected.

Some just whine their head off when they have a problem....but the fact is they whine about something not even related to their actual problem.

Whine, whine, whine
Sully....

I have every brand here, at least the ones I can afford (Not S&B...lol)....

I've got everything from Trashco to Nikon and Leupold too.

My issue with Leupold is their cagey attitude on stating where it's made, like it's a big secret or something and I agree, it matters little (when you put it on the table, or bear it for all to see...) They don't. My other issue is mark-up (real or imagined). I'm in the manufacturing business and I'm acutely aware of percentage of markup as it relates to business profit. When I see Leupold offer their products to a select group at over 40% less than suggested retail, that sends up the red flag for me because I know they are still making a profit, even at the reduced price.

While I don't demean any company for making a profit, IMO, they should be a bit more forthright in their dealings with their customers. If the optics are made by Oriental B Girls, so be it, but state that. Don't be cagey.

On a lesser note, from what I can see, their quality on related parts is slipping (as evidenced) by my having to 'adjust' related parts of a Leupold mount system to get it to fit properly on a customers rifle. I don't consider machining burrs on packaged for retail sale parts acceptable from anyone, not just Leupold. Thats not quality control and certainly not ISO/QS standard procedure....

40 years ago. there weren't that many players in the optics field, now the field is loaded with players, all competing for the consumer dollar so the field has changed and become acutely competitive. Leupold needs to change their business credo, IMO.

No whine here. I buy what I want to, it's still my (fiat) currency.

No whine here, it's my money and I spend it as I see fit.

I see the optics business as a big shell game. 3 coconut halves and you guess whats under the coconut half. 2 are empty and one is a 'maybe'.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:28 AM
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Re: Luopold VX-6 disapointment!!!

SFlip or anyone else , there's not much in my area to compare . In Long Range Varmint/Target Scopes ( at least 6-24X) and Mounts , what are the current " Best Bangs for the Buck " out there ? I'm thinking Sightron S-3 is one of them .
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:33 AM
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SFlip or anyone else , there's not much in my area to compare . In Long Range Varmint/Target Scopes ( at least 6-24X) and Mounts , what are the current " Best Bangs for the Buck " out there ? I'm thinking Sightron S-3 is one of them .

IMO it breaks down to 2 options

Sightron s3
Vortex PST

To me to Vortex wins, but its debatable and if you ask 10 people it will likely end you 5 vs 5. The front focal plane pst is roughly the same price as the second focal plane sightron. IF your comparing like to like the PST is about 200 bucks cheaper
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:52 PM
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Re: Luopold VX-6 disapointment!!!

Not being able to put your mitts on the exact item and having to rely on others opinions and then order from some seller far away, poses issues for me too.... (why I can't bring myself to buy Kennetrecks from Len, even though I trust Len and Andy) I can't buy something I can't try on or have in my hands and at least look over, but I have a Cabelas 2 miles away so I go there, and look at what I want (or need) and then go order it from a seller on this site, or Len because Cabelas is stoopid priced for the most part. Going there and fondling what I want is important for me. Probably why I have Meindl's. Cabelas carries them.

If I was inordinately rich (I'm not), I'd buy one of each and offer them for road tests by perspective buyers, to decide.

Too bad there isn't a Hertz rent a scope or rifle or backpack or hunting clothes out there. It's probably a liability issue knowing insurance comnpanies and greedy lawyers.

That would make navigating the optics maze lots easier.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:32 AM
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Re: Luopold VX-6 disapointment!!!

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The question I always ask is this.....What the hell difference WHERE the scope is made at as long as its 100% made correctly? Maybe made in Taiwan by off duty B-girls and if it isnt right THEN shipped to Po-Dunk California or wherever and corrected.

Some just whine their head off when they have a problem....but the fact is they whine about something not even related to their actual problem.

Whine, whine, whine
You maybe right!!!If you do not know the damm difference, Why you are reading reviews, Go to Big5 and buy Made in China Leupold Then you will see the differences and where is American made 100% quality!!
Stop whine because I am not that RICH to buy cheap stuff!!!

I support My Country's quality and Labor.(As Long as made it correctly...)
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