Originally Posted by Mikecr
I have 2 NXS, and 2 Mk4s at the moment.
- There is absolutely zero difference in glass quality between them. Neither anywhere close to european glass. Dead last on my list of importance..
- The eypiece rotates with NF scopes making flip-up operation a PIA. This disqualifies NF for field use -for me. I've learned the hard way that the only way to keep glass clean in the field is to keep it covered. But you can't be fiddling with bad covers or capped turret adjustments out there. It don't work well.
- The NF scopes are nearly a pound too heavy IMO and the 56mm scopes must be mounted higher than I like.
I reserve NF to my competiton guns because all I need there, is a resonable reticle subtension, reliable POA and sufficient power. One needed lens rebedding due to POA shifting, and NF turnaround on this was amazing. As good or even better than Leupold's service.
I don't have a problem with NXS scopes, they just aren't as good as Mk4s -overall. Though I would slow down only to urinate on a NF BR model..
I've thought about better glass. It's about all thats left with all else covered by Mk4s. Problem is, nobody covers all the Mk4s specs AND have better glass..
I've begged Leupold to offer a 'Mk5' out of the custom shop with ED matched lenses, and a range calibrated micrometer side focus. No luck yet.
Someone mentioned March scopes. But I wonder if they know anything about scopes actually used in the field. They started with a BR scope based on BR shooter input. They didn't, and wouldn't have done it on their own.
So who's telling them how to make hunting scopes? Do they hunt?
I've looked at various european scopes, and I don't really care about cost.
Usually there is a disqualifier like FFP, or metric, or weight, pysical size, limited options, huge reticle subtension, or other oddities(like capped turrets). Not one betters a Mk4 overall.
I guess my scopes must be more practical, than tactical.
I need a Mk5...................
I guess we all have our preferences in what we like in a scope. I'm not trying at all the pick a fight with you but I have very, very rarely heard anyone say that a Leupy was better than a NF. A few might say they are better "for the $$$", and that would only be a few.
I have never used a Leupy so let me ask you a few quetions about them.
If you dial in 20 MOA of elevation at 1000 yds. do they move 20 MOA exactley, or do they move 19.2 MOA?
Do they track reliably and always return to the same zero?
Will they do the above perfectly in 10 years... 20 years... 30 years?
Do they operate the same in -30 temps as they do in 90?
If your rifle and Mk4 took a tumble down a rock slide, would your turrets still work and would your scope still be on zero?
Are the internal workings of the Mk4 built to the same standards as a NF?
Is each scope tested against harsh and extreme enviromental conditions.
In short, are they constructed anywhere near to this standard?
IMHO, you get what you pay for and with NF you get a little more.
For some people the reticles are too fine. But that's not a problem with the scope, that's a limitation with the person. The reticle is specifically designed that way and is perfect IMO and I am 53 and my eyes aren't quite what they used to be. But I can see the reticle well enough and I like the fact when I draw down on a target @ a 1000 yds it isn't obscured by the reticle. At 500 yds it covers the area about the size of an elks eyeball.
As far as the eye peice moving when the power is adjusted, that just doesn't bother me. I dont use Butler Creek caps because I find them to be a pain. They fall off and flip up too easily on their own. I use the NF bikini cover and that works fine for me.
They are a little heavy, but again, that doesn't bother me. They are extremely rugged and if your horse takes a tumble and rolls over on your rifle and NF, you'll be worrying about the rife and not the NF. For a person who does not hunt in rugged and extreme conditions, a Leupy will probably do fine, as long as the internal workings perform to 100%, 100% of the time.
There are a number of scopes that will get the job done most of the time, but when I'm carrying my NF, it gives me complete confidence.