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Leupy vs. NightForce

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Unread 11-09-2005, 11:17 AM
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Re: Leupy vs. NightForce

Have you ever attended a Benchrest Match? If not.....do sometime and walk down the line and observe the scopes being used! 99% will be Leupolds!

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Unread 11-09-2005, 11:50 AM
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" Have you ever attended a Benchrest Match? If not.....do sometime and walk down the line and observe the scopes being used! 99% will be Leupolds! Why? Because them ole boys have learned that they're dependable and consistent!"

Not so sure about that sport. Go to a 50 BR match and most of them are shooting NXS scopes because their Luppys broke.

The large L.E. departments in the state where I work have all gotten away from Luppies because they don't hold zero riding around in the trunks of our patrol cars.

I own more Leupolds than NXS, but bought them before the NXS came out, and have an NXS on my 300 WSM, my 6.5 WSM, and my AR-10. I also have a Leupold on my Sako 300 WM. The NXS shoots smaller groups than my Luppy on the magnums, and tracks better than the Leupolds I own.
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Unread 11-09-2005, 01:04 PM
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I can not give my more then an opinion just as the others on this topic have and I would agree with most.

I will point out a few factors that made me decide to choose the 3.5-15x 50mm NXS over the 4.5-14 Leupold Mk4 even though it cost me several hundred more $$ to get.

One, vertical elevation adjustment. This NXS model has a full 110 moa or vertical adjustment. With the rifle I was putting this on, I am pretty sure that with the 20 MOA NF base that I can reach zero anywhere from 0 to well past 2000 yards with no special scope base needed.

This is not the case with the Mk4. But that said, the Mk4 would also reach out a VERY long way also, just not as far as the NXS.

Reason number two is the reticle choice. I do love the Leupold TMR that they have in the Mk4 line of scopes. The nice thing is that NF now has the MLR reticle which is basically identical. Only real difference to the reticle itself is that the Leupold version has the open center main crosshair. I do kind of like that feature but to be honest it is not a major thing.

Why I prefer the MLR from NF is because its heavy post sections of the reticle are see through. This allows me a much more precise hold using the top of the thick post at 1000 yards which is where my rifle is set up at.

With the solid TMR reticle, targeting a big game animal or a smaller target like a rockchuck or yote at 1K is more difficult as the solid post covers half the target up.

Again, this may be splitting hairs but to be honest, that is a large part of our hobby anyway.

I also prefer the shorter turrets on the NXS. Both work very well but I prefer the shorter ones on the NXS for a big game rifle.

Finally, as others have said, do not try to reinvent the wheel. Do and use what the professionals use. As mentioned earlier, if you go to a FCSA 50 BMG 1K shoot, you will probably see 90% of the rifles wearing NF scopes, either the BR models or the new NXS models.

The 5.5-22x 56mm was designed specifically for use on 50 BMG rifles so you know that any conventional rifle will be a breeze with these scopes.

There is nothing wrong with the Leupold Mk4 scopes, they are great scopes. But I will tell you that to me, shooting quality hunting times, 30 min before sunrise and 30 min after sunset, I see a noticable difference in brightness and clearity favoring the NXS.

Unfortunatly its hard to get one on every rifle you use so I would say the Leupold Mk4 is the next best thing.

Getting over the initial sticker shock is the hardest part when buying your first NXS. After you use it the price seems to be much more acceptible.

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Unread 11-09-2005, 01:50 PM
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Re: Leupy vs. NightForce

Leupolds are good scopes but not great scopes.

In the LR BR game well over 50% of the scopes are NF models. In the short range game, Leupolds have problems with POI shifts and that is why you have the Tucker conversions and now even taking all the innards out (slick tube) and going to adjustable rings versus elevation and windage adjustment knobs for leupolds.

However, Leupold has one of the best marketing programs and if you are a state volunteer hunter ed instructor you can buy the Leup 8-25x LR for $575 shippped. Now that is a different story if you can buy them that low priced versus over $1000 for the NF.

I have both and both have their uses.

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Unread 11-09-2005, 01:55 PM
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Re: Leupy vs. NightForce

I'm with you Lerch. Can't see much diff in optics, but my eyes are young.

This boils down to a comparison of apples to oranges or toyotas to lexus. Both good, but one costs more.
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Unread 11-09-2005, 03:02 PM
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Thanks for all the info,

I think that both scopes are great and are probably the best on the market. I favor Leup because my family is a distibutor for them and I just can't beat that price [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Whenever I got to look through a couple of NF's one of them was at a local shoot and I think the scop must have been dirty or something because the image was very dingy and kinda blurry. The other time was on a brand new NF with a 56mm obj, I looked at it on a rainbow colored target at about 350yds, i could see no difference in between the two scopes.
Now this comparisson probably isnt fair because this was a crisp bright oklahoma morning and there wouldn't be much of a difference to show. We did look at the same target through a high end swaro scope of the same power and you could pick up more color distinction on the rainbow, but I don't like those for rifle scopes anyway.

I have had problems with some old Leup's tracking and that is frustrating as hell. If the NF's can guarantee that tracking is not a problem with their scopes then that is probably reason enough to buy them.
I guess the only way to solve this mystery would me to have both scopes at the break of dawn staring at a pdog mound at 1000yds, ideally both scopes fixed to brand new Allen mag rifles, boy wouldn't that be sweet [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

At least I have gotten to hear a lot of opinions.

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Unread 11-09-2005, 04:30 PM
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Re: Leupy vs. NightForce

Funny this post would show up today! http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...=true#Post88360

You ever see some fool selling 6 nightforce scopes and upgrading to Leupy??? NOT A CHANCE

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