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Leica's New Geovid HD-B

 
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Old 04-10-2014, 06:39 AM
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Re: Leica's New Geovid HD-B

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Can't wait to see a review of these. Thought I had made my mind up on a Vectronix.
After using my PLRF5 side by side against these new Leica's I won't be changing anytime soon........the Leica's are great glass and range we'll, just not as well as my terrapin

I found the ranging reticle a little large for my liking......
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:19 AM
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Re: Leica's New Geovid HD-B

Tag for future reference. Great post.
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Old 06-21-2014, 07:23 AM
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I can get a pair of 10x HD-B's at dealer discount where I work. Almost pulled the trigger too until I read a fairly technical review. I hope Leica is reading this.

1. Out put in clicks, like the 1600-B, instead of pure MOA. This is just pure nonsense from the designer of this fine optic. A tool of this design is supposed to make the shooters life easier, not harder. I want it read 36.3 moa instead of 145 clicks. I succumb to certain types of pressure and doing division, in my head, is one of them. With that said, I know I can simply paste a simple conversion chart on my rifle. Almost, but not a deal killer.

2. The online web based ballistic app that allows one to input rifle's exact ballistic data, save it to a tiny memory device and drop it into the bino's battery compartment is genius. Only problem is we only get to use G1 BC, not G7, which is more accurate for our long range BT type of bullets. That puts me off 12.7" at 1 mile with a 300 gr OTM from my 338 Edge. DEAL KILLER!

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Old 06-22-2014, 10:12 AM
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Re: Leica's New Geovid HD-B

You can expect this from companies that 'add' ballistic gimmicks to their products, as they don't typically know anything about ballistics, or field use of ballistics.
What would Leica know of ballistics? It's not their bread and butter..

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Old 06-22-2014, 11:39 AM
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Re: Leica's New Geovid HD-B

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I can get a pair of 10x HD-B's at dealer discount where I work. Almost pulled the trigger too until I read a fairly technical review. I hope Leica is reading this.

1. Out put in clicks, like the 1600-B, instead of pure MOA. This is just pure nonsense from the designer of this fine optic. A tool of this design is supposed to make the shooters life easier, not harder. I want it read 36.3 moa instead of 145 clicks. I succumb to certain types of pressure and doing division, in my head, is one of them. With that said, I know I can simply paste a simple conversion chart on my rifle. Almost, but not a deal killer.

2. The online web based ballistic app that allows one to input rifle's exact ballistic data, save it to a tiny memory device and drop it into the bino's battery compartment is genius. Only problem is we only get to use G1 BC, not G7, which is more accurate for our long range BT type of bullets. That puts me off 12.7" at 1 mile with a 300 gr OTM from my 338 Edge. DEAL KILLER!

Going shootin!

Alan
the other problem is the leica only applies ballistic corrections to 1000 yards. you get ranges beyond that but not factored firing solutions. the other blunder is no angle compensation below 100 yards. huge miss for bow hunters. it looks to me like leica did not get these in the hands of real western hunters to test them. its just some small tweaks and they could have really knocked it out of the park.

the other thing and its probably just me and really dampered my impulse to buy is that for some reason the view in them doesn't seem quite right. its like the barrels are too wide apart, I also get more of an oval view through them with fuzzier edges on the outside edges. been using the previous model all along with no issues. The leica guy admitted that they have like 3% less light transmission than swaro's el range. if money was no object I would run the el range AND a g7 RF
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Old 08-05-2014, 04:31 PM
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Re: Leica's New Geovid HD-B

Alan nailed it about their only issues. I just recieved my HDBs after weighing them against the EL range. I wanted the Swaro warranty, EL glass, Leica distance, 10yd minimum, and the button on the right side. When It came down to it I couldn't spend 3k on something I would only use on my rifle hunts. I don't need to know the range less than 30yd to shoot, but it makes me question whether it is less than 30yds or if my batteries are dead. My hunting buddy went with the EL range, but he is a lefty and it made more sense. I wrote Leica about their two issues; lack of G7 input and MOA drop output in "clicks". The G7 seems a simple fix to me. I could be wrong but the way I believe it works is the computer program develops the drop chart and the binos adjust that drop chart for your atmospheric conditions. If that is the case, they would need to just add a G7 BC option to their web based calculator, like any good ballistic calculator does. The read out in number of 1/4MOA clicks may be more difficult. The binos would probably need to go back to leica to be re-programmed. I'm not even sure if the Leica reticle could display a decimal point. I'm just speculating here though. If I receive a reply from leica about either of these issues. I don't think I could find fault with these binos if they fixed those two issues. The 1000k max doesn't bother me. If I'm shooting that far, I'm running Shooter and playing with wind and angles, I have the time. The HDB appealed to me to make a 400-600yd shot without having to get out all the equipment I usually need to get out
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Old 08-24-2014, 12:05 PM
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Re: Leica's New Geovid HD-B

Well, I finally had time to take my replacement HD-Bs out for a thorough test. Please refer to my previous post to find out why my first pair was replaced.

My new pair definitely does better in the optics/picture category. Looks like they figured that out. I was on a scouting trip in south texas with 100 degree weather and had the time to compare the Leicas directly to my Swarovision EL. I found that the two binoculars give a very different type of view. Both are very crisp and bright. However, where the swarovski provides a very flat view, the Leicas provide an almost 3D view that took some time to get used to after spending the last 4 or 5 years hunting exclusively with the swarovskis. Once I got used to it, I believe I prefer the leicas in this respect.

Now the problem: I pulled the leicas out of the safe after only using them very little once I got them at the end of last season. I tried to range something in the house, and they were dead. I changed the battery and they worked perfectly agains and I went to the ranch. Once I got into the blind, I got set up and attempted to range something. they were dead again. I had just put a brand new battery into them just a few hours before. So I pulled the battery out and put it back in. they worked again. That evening (a few hours later), I was attempting to sight in a rifle, and tried to use them again to measure off the 50 yds I intended to start sighting the rifle in at, and they were dead again. I pulled the battery and replaced it and they worked again. At this point, i stopped trying to use them on the hunt.

I called leica, they remember me from the last time I had a problem, and they sent me a postage paid ups sticker and i sent them back. they are still under warranty. I got a letter from them indicating that they were sending them off to Leica Germany and it was expected to be 7-8 weeks. Very disappointing. Again.

The easy answer would be to send me another new pair. But we will see. I think they would become my go to binoculars, but I haven't been able to get them to perform yet. They still may be, but waiting 7-8 weeks for them to replace them again I think is asking a bit much of me once I have spend $3000.

To be continued.....
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