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Old 03-29-2011, 10:40 AM
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

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Thanks for the feebdack!

The reference on seeing a pop-rivet is a good one i dont beleive my Minox could do that. it was a good scope 8 years ago when I bought it but doesnt compare to what I have looked at now.

I was looking at the TSN-773 and TSN-883 which are the XD with the flourite. I am not sure how much the flourite makes a difference there seem to be as many opinions on it being better as those that say it doesnt matter much. The price is a big difference so I need to look at them.

Testing optics at a store is pretty tough, sportsmans is better than most since they have resolving charts in the building but there is not enough range for spotting scopes to test so I usually find as many reviews as I can from here and the bird watching sites. In my area I am still shocked everytime I go to Bass Pro or Cabela's and most of them do not know what a resolving chart is and still want me to buy from them. You would think they would hire one of the kids from one of the camera stores and let him run the department, the camera guys always seem to know this stuff really well.

Sorry to get off topic, recent experience has again caused frustration.
unless your using the scope with a camera, the flourite lense is not really needed. I've used both, and there's not as much difference between them as you'd think. SWFA is the place for KOWA's.

I did tests for around a month before buying the KOWA. My test were off a short tripod (very stiff one) sitting on a blacktop parking lot at 12 noon in the red hot sun of summer. The best scope I've ever seen was a Swarovski. Lieca might be number two and may a Nikon close. The Kowa was right in there with the Nikon and the Lieca, but maybe the Lieca was slightly brighter. My target was about 500 yards out, and with these scopes I could just barely make out the slots in the screw heads holding it in place. Interestingly I did notice a slight bit of glare in the Lieca, but no mirage. The Kowa was about $500 less than the others, and built like a tank.
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Old 03-29-2011, 11:20 AM
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

How about one of these:

52303 Celestron Regal 100 F-ED, Angled Spotting Scope with 22x - 67x Zoom Eyepiece

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PS: With the Celestron which has the flourite lens you can use different standard single power eye pieces which give you a much clearer view than the zoom eye pieces. I am not sure if you can use another maker of eye pieces for the other makes. I had a Kowa with a 27x and 60x single power eye pieces and it was hands down better than a friends Leica's with the zoom lens. The more lenses you have the less clear the view will be.

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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

I have a 884 love it. Got mine from scott liberty optic best price 3 years ago
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How about one of these:

52303 Celestron Regal 100 F-ED, Angled Spotting Scope with 22x - 67x Zoom Eyepiece

Vortex Optics - Spotting Scopes

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PS: With the Celestron you can use different standard single power eye pieces which give you a much clearer view than the zoom eye pieces. I am not sure if you can use another maker of eye pieces for the other makes. I had a Kowa with a 27x and 60x single power eye pieces and it was hands down better than a friends Leica's with the zoom lens. The more lenses you have the less clear the view will be.
I bought the 27X eyepiece on recommendation from friends, and my first look thru it was stunning! I probably will get the 45X in the end, and I'm not a zoom fan. I had the chance a few years back to use a Celestron, and was a very nice scope. Eyepieces will vary in quality for the Celestron, and of course the better come at a stiff price!
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I bought the 27X eyepiece on recommendation from friends, and my first look thru it was stunning! I probably will get the 45X in the end, and I'm not a zoom fan. I had the chance a few years back to use a Celestron, and was a very nice scope. Eyepieces will vary in quality for the Celestron, and of course the better come at a stiff price!
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I have a Celestron 8" reflecting telescope with about 7 eye pieces. You are right about the quality of them. I got into photography with it and ended up getting a 40x and 60x top of the line eye pieces and what a difference they make. I bet if you got the Celestron which is very reasonable and has the flourite lens and get the best eye piece you may end up with a better one then if you pay a lot for one of the higher dollar ones with a zoom.

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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

Thank you for all the feedback and info form everyone!

I really had every intention of getting a Kowa but talked to a friend today that can get me a Swaro HD with the 25x50 wide angle lens for around the price of the body alone. Long term I want to do some digiscoping as well so this seems like a good way to go since swaro has some good accessories to do this.

Now all I need is to find a good tripod head , looking at the Jim White head it was very smooth when I tried one and I liked it better than the pistol grip on the Bogen which is very heavy and seems a little less precises than a normal pan type head.
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

Price is always a big factor and if your buddy can get ya a deal then your probably good to go. The Swaro has an easy digiscoping setup that works well. BUT if you want to get serious digiscoping, Kowa makes some of the best camera lenses in the world and they have the setups to make the digiscoping the best there is. Only problem is your looking at big bucks to set it up. Just thought I would point that out.

Hmm. A Nikon ED in the same class as a Prominar. LMAO that's a first. I own both and no they are not in the same class. If they were i would have had no reason to buy the Kowa. I let everyone else i go with use the Nikon but the Kowa stays with me or my Dad. The Nikon is good just not quite a Prominar.
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