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Old 03-28-2011, 05:54 PM
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

Thanks! That is what I have read as well. I am really leaning towards that model, still looking at the Swarovski as well due to my brand bias.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:26 PM
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

The last I read in Dec. the Kowa 883 and 884 is the best followed by the zeiss 85 t fl then the pentex 100mm forget the model number then the swarovski 80mm. I bought the zeiss 20-75x85 T FL last january and I really like it and got it new for a steal. If it wasn't for that I would of bought the Kowa. Your not going to go wrong with any of these scopes and the differences are very small in brightness quality but more so in eye relief. I wear tri focals and I have no problems using the zeiss with a full field of view. Going from 20 to 75 power requires a very small focus adjustment and I can see clearly at 4 to5 miles on a cold day, no haze or heat waves.
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

I was looking at the kowa 884 prominar, but the only reason why i decided to go with a swaro 80HD was the 25-50x wide angle eyepiece. That thing is just awesome. I look through a 20-60x regular eyepiece now and know what i went with what i did. Check out the bird forums, they have a ton of information!
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:31 PM
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

Mountainman thanks for the break down!

Z, thanks that is very useful feedback I went to Outdoorsman's today and looked through the wide angle lens on the smaller swaro scope and it was great. I didn't test the 80 since I wanted to wait until they get the Kowa back in stock to look through them both. It was nice to finally find a place where they take the scope outside and there are mountains all around and you can really see what kind of detail you can pick out. I do have to say the focus on the Swaro is a great design as well.
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

yes it is! Cold=Gloves Gloves=big focus ring! Big focus ring=swaro!
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:22 AM
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

I have a Kowa Prominar 884. This year alone I used it to field judge bull elk over 5 miles away (as a crow flies, measured on Google Earth) and used it to help my Dad get one of those bulls that scored 341 5/8"! Two weeks later I was out helping my Father In Law get his elk. I spotted a nice bull laying under a cedar tree at 3.75 miles (again as a crow flies, measured on Google Earth). After watching him for about 20 minutes my FIL decided he wanted him. We put the plan together and he ended up getting him a really nice 5x6 bull that is very unique. You could not even see the bull with binoc's even when we knew where he was. We would have never seen nor got either of these bulls without the use of my spotter.

From what I see, I would recommend getting you the best, the 883 or 884 (depends on what style you prefer). It is worth the extra money to get the Florite, it allows you to resolve things that lessor lenses just dont have the ability to. At first you may not be able to see the difference, but when you start looking farther away and want to see those fine details and you can't, you will be sorry that you didn't spend the money if you go with a lessor scope. Generally with the Prominar you will think your focused but then you really fine tune it with the slow dial and you find out that you were not focused, it is that good!

With the Bino's you already have, I wouldnt worry about wide angle as the spotter isn't going to give you more than the Bino's. When you want to see details at long distance, that's when you break out the spotter. As for what you want, the Kowa's will easily do everything you listed. It is the best money I have ever spent for hunting besides my gun. Ohh, and yes, the larger size is worth it!
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Re: Kowa spotting scope, what size?

I have a 5 year old Kowa 82 without Flourite and I would agree with what Sako7STW says about performance. At the extreme ranges the higher quality image of better color helps with the ability to judge small details. Without Flourite. I can judge elk antlers to about 3 miles but only under certain conditions. I use single power eyepieces as the quality of the zoom eyepieces degrades the image.


Of course a lot depends upon your natural initial vision and mine is corrected moderately well but certainly not really well. So, as I said before and irritated one optics expert, if you are as blind as a bat then a good quality optic is lost on you anyway.
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