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Old 12-10-2002, 01:58 PM
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kahles vs leupold vs nikon

im looking for a scope to go on a browning a bolt 270 wsm i plan on using it for whitetail deer hunting in fl, but after i get out of college i plan on going west to hunt for mulies and antelope with it. currently im looking at a vari xIII 3.5x10x40 a nikon monarch 3x9x40 and the kahles 3x9x42 with the tds reticle. does anyone have any experience with any of these?
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Old 12-10-2002, 03:37 PM
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Re: kahles vs leupold vs nikon

I have a Nikon 4-12x40 and a VARIX-III 3.5-10x40 too, what do you want to know about them?
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Old 12-10-2002, 04:15 PM
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just wondering what you suggest. which do you find to be more clear and which one offers greater low light visibily. if you could only have one which one would you choose
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Old 12-10-2002, 08:35 PM
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I happen to have all three of those scopes here and have used them for several years. Here are a few thoughts, for what they are worth... Happen to shoot three Kahles TDS and have shot several more with the company folk. Have never seen any problems, used the turrets a lot and shot the TDS on in-lines, slug-guns and several rifles including a nice HS varminter. Also shoot several Nikons, both shiny and matte finish, very sharp and bright images, no problems to date and they have been all over N. America, mountains, arctic, Mexican border, very heavy use on range also. Have a couple of Leupolds and they are like a rock, very reliable but not flashy - they are "can't go wrong scopes".

Sharpness - resolution - in these scopes I would have to rate them in this order Nikon, Kahles then Leupold but that does not mean that the Leupold is not sharp, the others are a tad sharper. This is only relative to my scopes and my vision.
Brightness - Nikon and the other two about tied - same comment re my particular scopes and my eyeballs.
Adjustments/turrets - have not had any problem with any, although I like them in this order Nikon, Leupold, Kahles as far as "feel". All have been as accurate as you can expect from that grade of hunting scope
Finish - Kahles is a softer matte, nicely finished. Tne Nikon and Leupold are also good looking scopes, about equal in apprearance.
The Kahles has a fast-focus eyepiece, the others do not and this is a very good feature, as long as you do not use Butler Creek flip-ups
Nikon & Leupold are duplex style reticles, the Kahles's have TDS and it is worth having. Very simple to use (not sure you want to let yourself get too carried away with the instruction manual and "factors"). Just zero it and put some target downrange and see where the bars fit relative to where your groups hit. Bottom line, you have constant aiming points in the scope (at a given power, or they can even be changed by indexing the power ring), gives you simple hold-offs within range of most hunters (5-600 max).
I have shot the TDS in Swarovski and Kahles since it came out and rely on it for some types of hunts - particularly on my in-line muzzleloaders for shooting out to 200-250 yards.
TDS stands for TD Smith, retired airforce pilot who is simply bigger than life. You would NEVER forget having met TD. Easily one of the most amazing individuals I have ever met.
Goo luck on your selection - you are in a good dollar value range, the scopes are going to give good performance and should last a long time. Talk to www.swfa.com about prices.
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Re: kahles vs leupold vs nikon

I happen to have all three of those scopes here and have used them for several years. Here are a few thoughts, for what they are worth... Happen to shoot three Kahles TDS and have shot several more with the company folk. Have never seen any problems, used the turrets a lot and shot the TDS on in-lines, slug-guns and several rifles including a nice HS varminter. Also shoot several Nikons, both shiny and matte finish, very sharp and bright images, no problems to date and they have been all over N. America, mountains, arctic, Mexican border, very heavy use on range also. Have a couple of Leupolds and they are like a rock, very reliable but not flashy - they are "can't go wrong scopes".

Sharpness - resolution - in these scopes I would have to rate them in this order Nikon, Kahles then Leupold but that does not mean that the Leupold is not sharp, the others are a tad sharper. This is only relative to my scopes and my vision.
Brightness - Nikon and the other two about tied - same comment re my particular scopes and my eyeballs.
Adjustments/turrets - have not had any problem with any, although I like them in this order Nikon, Leupold, Kahles as far as "feel". All have been as accurate as you can expect from that grade of hunting scope
Finish - Kahles is a softer matte, nicely finished. Tne Nikon and Leupold are also good looking scopes, about equal in apprearance.
The Kahles has a fast-focus eyepiece, the others do not and this is a very good feature, as long as you do not use Butler Creek flip-ups
Nikon & Leupold are duplex style reticles, the Kahles's have TDS and it is worth having. Very simple to use (not sure you want to let yourself get too carried away with the instruction manual and "factors"). Just zero it and put some target downrange and see where the bars fit relative to where your groups hit. Bottom line, you have constant aiming points in the scope (at a given power, or they can even be changed by indexing the power ring), gives you simple hold-offs within range of most hunters (5-600 max).
I have shot the TDS in Swarovski and Kahles since it came out and rely on it for some types of hunts - particularly on my in-line muzzleloaders for shooting out to 200-250 yards.
TDS stands for TD Smith, retired airforce pilot who is simply bigger than life. You would NEVER forget having met TD. Easily one of the most amazing individuals I have ever met.
Goo luck on your selection - you are in a good dollar value range, the scopes are going to give good performance and should last a long time. Talk to www.swfa.com about prices.
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Re: kahles vs leupold vs nikon

Re: your possible interest in a Nikon 3-9x40, I've got one for sale. It's the Monarch model (which is their best line), black matte, plex reticle, product #6525 as I recall.

New in box, untouched since it left their factory. Bought for a hunt, but my pal got sick and the hunt was cancelled. I've got the rifle for sale too...

$249.00 shipped to you, guaranteed as I say or all your money back.

Save a few hundred vs. what else you're considering, and spend it on ammo, practice, meals, whatever. You will NOT be disappointed with Nikon optics, especially their Monarch line. One piece tube, blackened internals, fully multicoated lenses, everything-proof, lifetime warranty.

Good luck, whatever you pick, but I hope you buy my scope. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Re: kahles vs leupold vs nikon

nate that is a good offer but right now im saving up for the rifle, and when i get it my dad said he would split the scope with me.
thanks for the info ian, right now its going to be the nikon or the kahles the only reason i would get the kahles is bc of the tds reticle and its use for longer range shooting
i have 2 more questions what are turrets and what is the adjustible reticle and whatd does it allow the shooter to do. im new to this so i have alot to learn

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