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Old 12-05-2011, 01:57 AM
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high value low cost optics, scopes binoculars, spotters ect.

Hi I'm looking to break the cycle of people buying high dollar scopes just because of there name,
Binoculars and spotting scopes as well, wasting hard earned cash on stuff they don't need. Also just because something isn't expensive doesn't mean it isn't high quality, perfect example a Honda in 1985 cost anywhere from 1500-3000 new, I've owned 3 CRX's and one prelude and paid on average 1000 for them high value low cost. Honda to sell cars and to be competitive sold better cars than others for half the cost, and they had already established themselves as a great brand with 30 years in the car business.

My point is if you are a benchrest shooter or even a hunter a $1500 leupold isn't needed, under most circumstances if you are in extreme conditions a nicer scope might be warranted, I just bought a Tasco 2.5-10x42mm mil-dot scope for my AR-15 I went to a few local gun stores and was looking at 2-300 dollar nikons bushnells and othwrs, I wanted a mil dot so my choices were limited hunting scopes arent mil-dots usually I was even considering a $500 swarfvsky, then a guy shopping reccomended the Tasco I didn't even look at because it was $99 and I assumed it was a joke, however it had crisper glass with clarity at all ranges and no fuzzy ring on the outside edge at max power and the turrets had set screws to zero the windage and elevation even the $500 scope didn't have that, also the paralax ring and the power ring moved smoother, and didn't have the little bit of play so when you turn the focus ring every milimeter of movement in both directions moves the lense, the other 200-300 scopes had a little slop in the focus ring so if you don't have the lense snug the focus ring and fire it can can't and shift out of focus.
Basically the Tasco was the best product for my needs and it was the cheapest, and scince the $500 sollar scope was the only a little better than what I got, I just saved $400 and now I can buy a 20" bushmaster upper with a bull barrel and a 1-8 twist .

So if you've found a fantastic product for a great price reply to this post I put it in optics because the product I found that hit waaay above its wieght class so to speak was the Tasco 2.5x10-42mm scope they also have a 6-24x50 that is my scopes big brother and it is I think around $120.

So don't buy for a name buy whatever has quality, I'm looking for a great light set of varible power bino's 10-30x 30 or a nice variable monocular like 7-21x-whatever. I don't want to spend more than 60
Thanks guys
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:43 AM
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Re: high value low cost optics, scopes binoculars, spotters ect.

OK , I will play . I Test my own Scopes or those from friends just for kicks and because I see so much variability in comments . I also use a wide variety of Resolution Charts . I ran into one Rifle Scope which really surprised me . Caviat : I only shoot in bright sunlight and FOV and Eye Relief are not critical because I'm shooting light kicking Varmint Rifles . Anyway , the Scope with very high Resolution and low cost was a Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X . I should also add that I test all my Scopes at 15X / 16X because that is where all my Scopes overlap in Power . For Light Weight Binoculars , I like my old Bushnell 7X26 Custom Compacts . Don't know if they are even made anymore . They were once the first choice of Lightweights for Birders , and were chosen to go on the early Space Flights . They are not a good choice for dim light Deer Hunting ( don't ask me how I know ) .
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:47 AM
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My best optics buy was an old surplus M17A1 6x30 binocular I found in the local junk shop for the princely sum of $6.00, the glass is fantastic! It is not marked as to the maker but from my research I think it is probably a Baush & Lomb.

I normally try to stay with US made stuff as much as I can so if the price is a little higher I wait a little longer.

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Old 12-07-2011, 02:53 PM
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Re: high value low cost optics, scopes binoculars, spotters ect.

let the buyer beware, you always get what you pay for,

sometimes you pay for the name, there are other reasons for the price difference. optical clarity, consistency, reliability, and even reticles can make a difference.

nightforce for example, they are expensive, but mechanically, they are probably the most consistent scopes on the market. they are also some of the most rugged and heaviest.

any scope with a horus reticle is going to cost more because you have to pay horus for the royalties on the reticle.

most decent scopes that are worth buying also have a life time warranty and good customer service. schmidt and bender and swarovski even go as far as to send you a scope to use while your scope is fixed if you ever have a problem.

shooting long range, mirage can be an issue you can better cope with if you have better glass. in low light situations, better optics, illumination can make all the difference in the world.

in reflex optics, like aimpoint and eotech, you pay for an optic that will work in adverse situations or work for a long time, the aimpoint micro's can run 5 or 6 years on one battery, and can take some abuse, check this out


the times you really see the difference is when el cheapo optics break at the most inopportune time, when your walking back to camp because you can't see through your scope or you can't see your reticle when the buck is standing right in front of you, when you can't see through the mirage, or when you make a turret adjustment and it either doesn't return to zero, or won't adjust consistently. or your red dot blinks on and off when you fire, or the battery goes dead in two hours,
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:11 PM
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SWFA SS Good glass, nice mechanics

Nightforce Very good glass, but about bomb proof

US Optics, outstanding glass, fully customizable great mechanics.
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Re: high value low cost optics, scopes binoculars, spotters ect.

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let the buyer beware, you always get what you pay for.
the times you really see the difference is when el cheapo optics break at the most inopportune time, when your walking back to camp because you can't see through your scope or you can't see your reticle when the buck is standing right in front of you, when you can't see through the mirage, or when you make a turret adjustment and it either doesn't return to zero, or won't adjust consistently. or your red dot blinks on and off when you fire, or the battery goes dead in two hours,


Well said. Quality in optics is much more than the image you see thru the lens. Take a scope apart sometime, and you will see how complex it is. Many cheap scopes have glued in prisms; erector tube springs that do not return, poor lens coatings,etc. And they seem to fail just when you need it to be perfect. Yes, you can find a cheap scope that might give a lifetime of service; but the odds are better with the high end scopes. Buy the good stuff and cry once.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:39 AM
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Re: high value low cost optics, scopes binoculars, spotters ect.

I think a guy should have a good scope.

I just bought a set of cheapo 15x70 binoculars for spotting and range use and I can see one heck of a lot with them. The moons of Jupiter are easy to make out. I can see individual small branches on trees 3.5 miles out so far. I haven't tried them in the field yet but counting points at 2 miles should be easy.

I intend to use them more close to the truck than carrying in the field but for 129$ they are pretty good. They aren't tough enough for hard hunting use but they make bino's for that they are just 3 times more money. These would break if you dropped them.

https://www.garrettoptical.com/Garre...-p/g1570lw.htm
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