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Unread 07-11-2008, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigcat_hunter View Post
Before you shell out thousands of dollars for glass take a look through some Alpen Rainiers next to some Liecas or swaros. You might be surprised!
For people where money is no issue, they can buy the most expensive binoculars out there and whether they're infinitesimally better or not, it's no financial burden. For the rest of the majority of us, there's only so much disposable income to go around and being thrifty is mandatory. So I agree with the logic of paying somewhat less and yet still getting a quality item. Scott's philosophy is right at home with me. European manufactured optics are very expensive now that the value of the US dollar has collapsed. It's not worth paying an extra 40% for me to get an additional 3% performance. There is a point of diminishing returns and I realize it when I see it.

If Scott says the Razors are high quality glass I would bet my money on his opinion. I've followed his writings for the past several years and he's spent a lot of time comparing optics from the different manufacturers in the effort to bring the best bang for the buck to his customers. I have no doubt the Razors would be top notch - not some cheesy Coke bottle bottoms.

But if money's no issue, spend the extra $900.00 and maybe you'll get an extra % or two of light transmission and higher resolution. How many times would that extra % have made or broke one of my hunts over the past 35 years? Never.

I've got some Swarovski SLCs and compacts. And a Zeiss spotting scope. They're easy on the eyes and fun to view things through. I bought them before the value of the US dollar tanked. I don't have the latest greatest Swarovski's binos or any Schmidt & Bender or USO rifle scopes, but I'm completely content with my IORs scopes visually, and they cost 50% less. Scott brought the 3-18x IOR scopes to my attention several years ago. I researched them and eventually purchased them at a good price from Liberty Optics.

Last edited by phorwath; 07-12-2008 at 03:30 AM. Reason: improve clarity
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Unread 07-11-2008, 05:12 PM
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I think in this case Swaro's are not needed.
I would love to look threw some and maybe
buy some for my 2 teenage daughters to use
since I will not let them borrow my Swaros
and keep them in the truck for those times
when you want to look at something but not
packing the high end stuff with me.
The thread was about high end and so my posts.
Are they worth twice the money?
I think so but sure would like to be able to sell off
my swaros and buy something new for half the price
and be able to put those funds into a new project.
Just don't think that will ever happen.
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Unread 07-12-2008, 03:02 AM
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And I somewhat hijacked the thread, as it was/is about high end binos. But the Vortex Razors are high end in my book in optical performance and I saw an opportunity to offer an alternative that I thought would satisfy the customer without breaking the bank. As a sponsoring vendor, I see this as one role, but if you guys disapprove, I adapt.

I'm still learning, a qualified beginner, but I do care about you guys and I'm quite dedicated to finding the best bang for the buck, but not in a cheap way...

phorwath, thanks for the kind words...

"See Better, Shoot Better"
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Unread 07-12-2008, 05:21 AM
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I jumped on this a little more because of your first post.
Sorry but yes, I felt as you were pushing your product.
Best of luck to you and I hope your product lives up to what you say.
I live in hicksville and can not just run down to the the store for a looksie.
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Unread 07-12-2008, 11:25 AM
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Buy the Leica's and you'll never need another set of bino's the rest of your life. As far as warranty, they'll never need to be sent back. Pretty strong product. I have been told by an individual who sells nothing but high end bino's Swaroski's have been known to go out of culmination 3-5%, Leica's less than 1%.
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Unread 07-12-2008, 10:42 PM
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Scott im confused about ur post implied towards me:confused: could u please explain 2 me in english please?
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Unread 07-30-2008, 11:53 PM
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I have or have had all of the top glass.

but the 10X50slc and 8.5x42 EL Swaros are hard to beat.

My 2cents.

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