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Old 06-11-2003, 07:26 AM
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Harts Big eyes

I was looking through Harts catalog and was comparing the Big eyes price to other's. They seem like the best deal. Do any of you know if the spacemasters they use are the older ones? Also, do they use any other scopes like Swift or Kowas, at different prices? I was in contact with Jerry Phillips and his prices seem very high.
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Old 06-11-2003, 07:40 AM
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Re: Harts Big eyes

Last time I talked to Bobby Hart, (last week-end) they are using Swift spotters as they can't get the Bushnell Spacemasters without variable eyepieces.

Once in a while a pair of 60MM (not 50mm) Spacemasters can be found on a shelf somewhere like a camera or sports shop.

Call Hart and see what they are using at present. Maybe he found some older Spacemasters?

The catalog number for the Spacemasters we use is---"78-1800".
If you find any, let me know.

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Old 06-11-2003, 08:12 AM
 
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Re: Harts Big eyes

samson,
should be able to build a set yourself for around 600.00 or less. If ya attend the world open at Williamsport you can usually find a very fine bracket for sale(usally around 150.00) and then buy the glass yourself. You may even be able to find a set already put together at a fair price. Don't jump on the first stuff ya find out there now. Shop around and be patient. If worse comes to worse ya know hart's will have something.
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Old 06-11-2003, 09:32 AM
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Re: Harts Big eyes

Samson

338 is correct.

The "light weight" brackets are sometimes seen for $150.00 and the heavy duty jobs for around $200.00 to $225.00.

Randy Yahn has a real nice bracket for $225.00 to $250.00 and is thought by many to be the best. You have to watch on some of the cheaper or more expensive brackets how tight the objective bracket fits to the rods that adjust for the seperation of a persons eyes.
I usually grab hold of the front two objective ring holders of a bracket and try to move them apart and back and forth. If there is ANY movement or looseness, they won't hold collimation when this adjustment is made. I never use those brackets that have ANY looseness at all.

The 40 or more sets I put together and sold with one set of 22X WA eyepieces went for $695.00. I think Harts price was/is at least $100.00 more then that. I would have to charge more now because of the unavailability of the Spacemasters we always used.

When you put turrets and three sets of eyepieces on the set-up the price jumps to $1150.00 but, you have an outstanding and much more usable set of glasses. The eyepiece selection on the turrets were/are 15x, 22x and 40x for closer identfication of animals and horns.

With bigeyes, you can get into them for around $700.00 to $5000.00 depending on what your wallet will stand.
"For the money", the Spacemasters are hard to beat. They can be beat, but the price will also be MUCH higher.

Over the years I've had and still do have, a large collection of big eye glasses of different models and can compare them quite well.

I may have a set of Spacemaster's to sell in the near future.
If anybody is interested, let me know.

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Old 06-11-2003, 11:07 PM
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Re: Harts Big eyes

I've been wanting big eyes for some time now myself. The part I can't believe is that the spacemasters provide such great optics (I'm sure they do though, from what I've read). I know price is a consideration but how about the fixed Kowa's with a bracket. I know the bushnell's have been the standard but it's now 2003 and they are no longer in production--we need to move on as well. I'd like to see a bracket made for a higher end scope, bushnell has poor optics in general anyways, imagine if we could have Kowa big eyes, who wants to step up and fabricate the mounts?
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Old 06-11-2003, 11:43 PM
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Re: Harts Big eyes

DC
I am very interested in purchasing a pair. Where can you buy the turrets to add on?
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Old 06-12-2003, 06:24 AM
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Re: Harts Big eyes

..MOA.. You mean like these.?? Hehehe.. d:^) JiNC

PS- Randy in VA has some nice setups as I recall, also..



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