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Unread 05-24-2013, 12:37 PM
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FFP for prarie dog and rock chucks

Any use a FFP scope for prarie dogs or rock chucks?

I have S3 6-24x50 LRMOA and really like it on my 7WSM, very good glass. Would be perfect if it had a zero stop.

Also have a Vortex 4-16x44 HS LR on a 6.5 x 284, decent glass, awesome turrets, and love the zero stop.

Considering a Vortex 6-24x50 HS LR FFP or another Sightron S3 for my newest gun, a Savage 223 (soon to be a 223ai).


Interested in people's thoughts on the FFP scopes for varmint guns.

Thanks,
Ryan
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    Unread 05-24-2013, 01:11 PM
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    Re: FFP for prarie dog and rock chucks

    You indicated you like zero stops, so I assume you dial in, at least for elevation. This is a varmint rifle in a smaller caliber so small targets at distance. Most, not all, but most FFP's have a thicker crosshair on higher magnifications so I would not want one for a varmint designated rifle. Not to mention that the FFP 24X PST has a reticle that is so small on the low end it is hard to use below 10X.

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    Unread 05-24-2013, 05:37 PM
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    Re: FFP for prarie dog and rock chucks

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    You indicated you like zero stops, so I assume you dial in, at least for elevation. This is a varmint rifle in a smaller caliber so small targets at distance. Most, not all, but most FFP's have a thicker crosshair on higher magnifications so I would not want one for a varmint designated rifle. Not to mention that the FFP 24X PST has a reticle that is so small on the low end it is hard to use below 10X.

    jeff
    Right on the money.

    My PMII was terrible for gophers!
    Head shots were out of the question.
    For small targets at long distance FFP is not the way to go in my experience.
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    Unread 05-25-2013, 07:17 AM
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    Re: FFP for prarie dog and rock chucks

    I use the 6-24 hs with the xlr reticle to shoot pdogs all the time and the reticle is very usable at 8 but I mostly run it in the 18 -20 range. Dial elevation and hold for wind. I don't like to worry about what my mag is on so I went ffp and will never go back. At 6 it is a cross hair that will work just fine for any close work. Thursday I shot them from 87 yards to 442 and never wished I had a sfp scope
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    Unread 05-26-2013, 06:20 PM
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    Re: FFP for prarie dog and rock chucks

    I agree with Broz
    There is no way I could use a FFP at 25x(which I need) on Groundhogs..

    I prefer SFP in 8.5x25 MK4s
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    Unread 05-27-2013, 11:10 PM
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    Re: FFP for prarie dog and rock chucks

    Here is a picture in Wyoming where 3 of us were shooting at a 7" steel target at 700 yds. It is my Savage Duel Port Target action with a Brux 26" 1 in 8" twist S/S barrel in 6mm Norma BR. If I remember correctly we needed to make 4 clicks into the wind. We were shooting 105 Berger VLDs. There was about 15 to 20 mph right to left wind. The scope is a Vortex PST 6-24x50mm FFP with a custom turret set at 24 power. We shot 45 rounds between the 3 of us and I think we missed less than 5 times.

    When increasing the power with a FFP scope the target enlarges the same amount as the reticule. If you can hold on a bullet hole at 100 yds. you can hold on a bullet hole at any distance if you can see it.

    Joseph

    PS: Once you get used to even the 6 power you can see it perfectly. And you can always turn on the illumination if you desire.
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    Unread 05-28-2013, 06:35 PM
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    Re: FFP for prarie dog and rock chucks

    Here is my Savage with the Vortex PST FFP MOA scope with a custom turret. It is a 6mm Norma BR. I had built by Kevin Rayhill of Stockade Gun Stocks to hunt Antelope in Wyoming.

    I built the table so I could take it apart and put it in the trunk of my Toyota Corolla. I used it when shooting at 1,000 yds.

    joseph
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