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Duplex Reticles, Custom Reticles, Windage & Ranging

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Unread 04-16-2008, 02:52 PM
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Duplex Reticles, Custom Reticles, Windage & Ranging

Currently I have a Savage 7mm Rem Mag being customized by Weaver Rifles. I am looking for a scope and plan on using turrets from Kenton Industries.

What is wrong with using turrets on a duplex reticle and dialing in for the correct windage and elevation? I guess I dont see the need for a custom reticle, such as those being sold by Leupold, John Burns Precision, Holland's ART, etc...

Obviously time is an issue when setting up for a shot and I would need a high quality range finder. This is not a comment on quality of any companies products, but a matter of clarification and knowledge.

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    Unread 04-16-2008, 04:44 PM
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    Custom reticles ar normaly for shorter distance (500 to 1000yards) and
    work very well if the shooter is proficient at reading wind,mirageand distance.

    But for the really long distance one needs to take the time and adjust the
    scope.

    It is mostly a mater of choice, I like the milldot reticles but never use them
    as a range finder now that there are very good range finders available. And
    on long shots prefer to use the turrents and on shots closer than 5oo or
    600yrds I will use the mill dots for hold over an windage because error is
    minimal.

    Some times you dont have time to adjust the scope (Like running shots) but
    ethics prevents me from taking running shots over 4 or 500yrds so if I cant
    be assured of a one shot kill then I dont take the shot.

    At long distance there are so many variables and a lot of thought and prep
    must be made before taking the shot ,and hold is just to inconsistant.

    No mater what system you chose be proficient with it and know your limits.

    So to answer your question, There is nothing wrong with using a Duplex Reticle
    and dialing up the range and windage ,In fact it is recomended on the longer
    shots.

    Good luck and good hunting
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    Excellent comments JE.
    I'm going to a tactical match this weekend and intend to use a Holland reticle for all distances (300-1,000 yards). There will be 64 targets in all shooting from the prone position-Eight stations with eight targets at each station. With 4 seconds per hundred yards of time allowed per target (40 seconds on a target that is 1,000 yards) using the reticle should be to my advantage in this scenario-even more so when using a specialty handgun.
    If you think that most of your shooting will be done beyond 1K+ then you may want to consider 1/8 MOA, just for the sake of precision.
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    Thankyou for the responses. My intentions are to purchase a VX-111 (4.5-14x50mm w/ Duplex Reticle) and Swaro range finding binoculars. I want to be able to shoot out to 750 yards. Which I think the VX-III is capable of doing so. I am researching now the true capabilites of the Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guide Range Finder. What I hope to accomplish is to have a single bino/range finder and avoid the expense and weight of having binoculars and range finders in my pack or on my person while hunting.

    Does this sound reasonable? Can the Swaro's range out to 750yrds in most conditions consistenly? I know with practice my rifle and optic combination will do the job. My concerns however are the expense of range finders and custom reticles. If members have a suggestions of range finders or range finding binoculars that are consistent out to 750yrds I am interested in hearing your opinions.

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    4-500 yd running shots?

    J E Custom

    If you can make one-shot kills on running animals out to 4-500 yards then you're one heck of a shot. I can too if the animal is running dead at, or away, from me. Well..., I might be able to hit an elephant on the move at those distances.
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    BMS,

    Well you and I seem to be at a similar place. I just purchased a Sako 75 SS in 7MM mag with the hopes of stretching my range out to 800 yards. I will use a Leupold and will have an elevation knob done by their custom shop. I'm still undecided for windage. I think at the range I'm considering what I would like is a reticle that has .5 moa lines, but Leupold doesn't offer anything but mil. BTW I hope your custom rifle shoots very well, I was going to go custom with a Mod 700 action I have but didn't want to wait. So far the Sako is shooting about .8MOA, but i havn't put much work into the reloads so I home to drop down to approx .5MOA.

    Good Luck.
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    Thanks Phorwath.

    But just like the long range rifles are special purpose I have several
    rifles built for running boar competition 300,400 and 500yrds from left
    to right and right to left on a "haul ass" wild hog target that goes 100
    yards and turns around and returns to the start.

    You are given 5 shots and scored .It does take some practice but so
    does long range shooting. And practice has paid off. Two hunting seasons
    ago I was very lucky and dropped 4 hogs in a line about 150yrds long,
    and was using my 7/08 custom (20''#7 taper Shillen) And was very busy
    with the bolt action remingtion.

    So I have some practice at running targets/game but since I left california
    I have not found a range that has a running boar setup.

    Just like realy long range shots that make me uncomfortable running shots
    may make others uncomfortable.

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