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Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

 
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Old 10-29-2003, 09:21 PM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

Thanks, Jay, I stand corrected. The Burris BD thus is $140 less expensive for what seems to be an extremely similar product.

If it were my money, I spend the savings on ammo, or a first-class set of rings/base, or a year's membership at my local range, etc.

Nothing against Leupold. I have three of their Mark 4 scopes. But I'm a BIG value shopper, and I think dollars spent for performance is clearly in favor of Burris in this instance.

NF proponents, their scopes are WAY heavier, and you cannot convince me that they are worth the extra money because they perform better. They certainly seem to have the very high powered variable market locked up, but rumor has it that Leupold will bring a Mark 4 variable to their line in the near future. That's what makes it a horserace... [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 10-29-2003, 11:33 PM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

They are both great scopes. I don't have the newest diamond coated Black Diamond but have used a 3x-12x for some time and it is very nice. Great image, nice and sharp and bright. Only concern I have is their turrets, they work OK but could be better considering the $ involved and how similar priced competition turrets work. Maybe they have improved turrets, not sure. They now have the third turret for parallax so they have been working on turrets.

Also have shot the Leupold quite a bit and it is a fine scope, little bit short on the tube for scope mounting - depends on your mounts and receiver length. Good optics and very nice turrets, crisp and very accurate, rugged and simple. Easier to zero-up. Get better with use, more snappy.
I would suggest that you also check out a Nikon 4x-16x50 Tactical while you are at it. Might surprise you. Kicks butt.
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Old 10-30-2003, 05:15 AM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

I'd eat peanut butter and Jelly for a month if that's what it took to get the leupold! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-30-2003, 09:40 AM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

B/E713, I would have been probably in the same camp (although I'd prefer mac&cheese to PBJ, burned out on them as a kid back before electric lighting, ha ha).

That is, until I saw a Burris scope used by a pal to place very high in a national 1,000y BR match. He had an NF that he wanted to use, but couldn't make Light Gun weight with the beast. So he used a BD 8-32, and 'suffered' with the lower magnification (vs. the NF 12-42).

He shot two of the eight smallest LG groups of the entire match, both of them being under 4.5". He also shot one of the ten smallest HG groups (using the same rifle/scope, too much trouble to change optics during the match) at 7.xx". LG groups are five shots, HG groups are 10 shots.

Of much interest was the fact that he was the ONLY shooter using a Burris of any kind. Everybody else had Leupold, NF, a couple of Tasco 'Custom Shop' setups, and maybe a few other oddballs.

Is it because the BD isn't competitive? No. They just do a lousy marketing job, IMO, and their scopes look (at least used to) sorta clunky and their finish isn't as nice as it should be. But they PERFORM.

So I bought one. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Regarding majority rules mentality, there's nobody else in our Long Range Tactical match near Sacramento who uses a Sightron scope, let alone a 1" tube version. Except me. And I've never finished last, and on occasion I get real lucky if you know what I mean. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Bottom line is we shooters have several excellent options, and it is the nut doing the driving who will make the difference, once the nut has good enough stuff. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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