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Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

 
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Old 10-29-2003, 08:54 AM
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Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

Hi,

I would like to hear feedback on what your experience has been in using the Burris Black Diamond 4X16 T-Plate scopes and the Leupold 4.5X14X50. Pro's and con's of each from your experience. Am considering either one the for a new hunting rig I am haveing built this winter. This is for deer and antelope. Thanks ahead of time for your input and feedback.

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Old 10-29-2003, 09:40 AM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

Lonnie The Burris has better optics but the
Leupold has more internal adjustment assuming that they are the latest 30mm offering by both. Next time I buy a scope I think I am going with Nightforce. They are expensive but have really nice optics and a large amount of internal adjustment!
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Old 10-29-2003, 10:35 AM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

I will stick with my Leupold's.

H-BAR im in disagreement with you.Ē Burrisís has better optics" Scopes are like barrels you get a good one and one time you get a bad one when it comes to optics. Seems too me that one scope brand to brand will always be clearer then other.
I have owned several Burris's and Niteforces and I will always go back to the good old Leupold's.
When the NXS's first to hit the market I was the first to go out and get me one. It was the first scope I thought was the biggest waste of money. Optics were compared to some scope you would get at the local discount chain for $79.00 I loved the looks and the internal adjustment but the optics basically sucked. Many friends I shoot with also got the NXSís when they hit the marked. They also had trouble with optics and the scope not being able to focus. The sent them back to Niteforce many times and the problem was never corrected. They got refunds for the scopes. As to the Niteforceís the older benchrest models seem to have much better optics than the NXSís. Now these days Niteforce hopefully corrected the problems with the NXSís
Burrisís optics from the many I have looked through seems to be good but donít have much internal adjustment! Great for short range work but when it comes to long range work they donít fill the bill.


Thatís my 2 cents.


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Old 10-29-2003, 03:27 PM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

gang, let's try to compare apples to apples, or at least the Burris BD 4-16x50 and the Leupold 4.5-14x50 LR.

The BD w/plex reticle is #200954, and has a dealer cost of $509.00 (per Jerry's Sport Center). It has 74 MOA of internal elevation adjustment, and weighs 22.3 ounces.

The Leupold w/plex reticle is #54660, and has a dealer cost of $648.60. It has 75 MOA of internal elevation, and weighs 22 ounces.

Specs per Burris and Leupold websites.

The Burris will have the adjustable objective feature, the Leupold will have the side focus/parallax feature. Both have target knobs.

Is the side focus and Leupold name worth $150 more? You be the judge. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Good luck, whichever you pick.
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Old 10-29-2003, 03:39 PM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

A bunch of my buddies got signature series scopes and they were very clear especially in the middle of the day you could close the apeture to block out the extra light. The only problem is that every one of those scopes got sent back to Burris because they broke. All scopes were bought at different times and different dealers so I don't think it could be a faulty lot scenario. I personally have look through a lot of Leupolds and happen to own a 8-25x50. This scope is ok but I have better cheaper scopes in my house alone and have seen many better sets of optics. I think that Leupolds older scopes are clearer than the new stuff. I know a few guy that bought these same scopes like mine recently and said the optics aren't that great. Keep in mind that this is a scope that has been properly tuned to my eye with the eyebell. I by far like the Springfield Armory scope that I have. When sat behind both scopes being tuned to the viewers eye I haven't seen anyone say the Leupold was clearer or brighter etc.
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Old 10-29-2003, 03:57 PM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

The NXS is the best glass that I have looked through so far. I'm not sure why but it's a bit better in my eyes than the NF BR model my dads has. Both are newer models so I can't say about the first ones out on the shelf. I'd look at IOR, as the clarity is said to be top shelf too, but not as expensive as the USO line.

To me, there's more to Leupold than a side focus and a name... it quality, warranty and customer service too, and I'd pay more for that any day. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Burris has yet to prove to me that those are top priorities to them.
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Old 10-29-2003, 04:22 PM
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Re: Burris Black Diamond or Leupold?

Nate, Actually, the 4-16xBD has the side focus too. That'll be the scope I put on my "ROCK" rifle after I get all my pennies saved up. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Jay
News flash! Any scope can break, even a Leupold, well, maybe not a US Optics scope
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