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Old 06-20-2014, 08:56 AM
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--> An Aussie requesting assistance finding a scope within my budget/requirements

Hi there,

First off I would like to say hello from over here in the land down under.

I know threads similar to this would be getting posted on this forum every other day however I have spent half the day trying to find a scope that meets my requirements and budget and I am still no closer to finding an option then I was when I first started looking. There's just so many bloody options!

This forum has been very helpful in helping me understand what the differences are between specific types of scopes and the importance of these differences.

I have come up with the following requirements;

- I intend on using this scope to make shots between 500m and 1000m allowing full turret adjustment to do so whilst being zero'd at 100m.

- My budget is under $500 AUD if possible however I would consider spending up to $750 AUD (including the cost of good quality rings if they are not included) only if I can see the value and get a scope that would last me a lifetime.

- Considering over here in Australia we use the metric system and that my research suggests that using a scope with a mil dot style reticle with 1/10 Mil adjustments would suit me better, that is my preference. However, I am not having much luck finding many scopes within my budget that have 1/10 Mil adjustments and a whole lot of them that I find with a mil dot reticle have 1/4 MOA adjustments which just seems silly to me? I am still open to suggestion in regards to this requirement and would still consider a scope with a MOA style reticle with MOA adjustments if nescessary.

- The scope's manufacturer must have a reputation for using decent quality glass in its optics.

- Must have the ability to reset mechanical zero once sighted in.

- The scope must have a tube diameter of 30mm or above allowing for a greater range of adjustments.

- The scope should have a 50mm or 56mm Objective Lens however I would consider a 40mm Objective Lens if the scope is at the lower end of my budget.

- The scope must have a variable zoom with a max zoom setting of either 16x,18x,20x or 24x.

- The reticle must exist in the first focal plane as I want the reticle markings to be relative to the size of the object no matter what the zoom setting is set to. (This would be best for accurately calculating range correct?)

(Am I correct in assuming that if the reticle exists in the second focal plane and does not change size depending on zoom setting, that it would effect ones ability to use the reticle to make accurate range calculations? And that you would have to have the scope sec to a specific zoom setting for the reticle markings to be true to make a correct calculation? If someone could clarify this for me I would really appreciate it!!)

- Zero Stop or Locking Turrets would be nice features but are not a requirement.

Whoever reads this I challenge you to find a scope that meets all of these requirements as I am not having any luck and I am getting too frustrated!

Thanks in advance for your time and efforts people!

Looking forward to reading replies.

P.s. If you can show me options that meet most but not all of my requirements please do so as I am aware I may be being a bit too picky..

Last edited by wayno1337; 06-20-2014 at 09:58 AM. Reason: More info
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Old 06-20-2014, 10:06 AM
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Re: --> An Aussie requesting assistance finding a scope within my budget/requirements

You don't want much for your money do ya��. The only scope that meets nearly all your criteria is the Millett LRS, which you can also get in mills. Cleaver firearms in Queensland has heaps of them in stock. Quality was patchy with them but they reckon they're better now. I've handled one a few months ago and was actually quite surprised at how good it looked and clear it was and nearly bought one myself.
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Old 06-20-2014, 10:23 AM
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Re: --> An Aussie requesting assistance finding a scope within my budget/requirements

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You don't want much for your money do ya��. The only scope that meets nearly all your criteria is the Millett LRS, which you can also get in mills. Cleaver firearms in Queensland has heaps of them in stock. Quality was patchy with them but they reckon they're better now. I've handled one a few months ago and was actually quite surprised at how good it looked and clear it was and nearly bought one myself.
Lol I would consider spending up to $750 if I can justify it.. Just checked their website (I was at that store today actually) would this be the one you are referring to:

"MILLETT 6-24 X 56 LRS-1
MATTE ILLUMINATED
SIDE FOCUS 35MM TUBE
.1 MIL WITH RINGS
SPECIAL $499"

Do you by any chance know what kind of reticle it has? Thanks for the info, gives me one option to consider and research.

Any other suggestions anyone?
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:20 AM
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Re: --> An Aussie requesting assistance finding a scope within my budget/requirements

Doesn't really matter which system you use, mils or moa, as long as your reticle and turret adjustments are the same system. I think in inches and yards, you in cm and meters, but scopes deal in angle. I run several Vortex Vipers with FFP reticles, moa pattern reticle matching moa turrets. Great scope for the price, if you can get them "down under".
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:26 AM
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Re: --> An Aussie requesting assistance finding a scope within my budget/requirements

Forgot- your parenthetical about FFP vs SFP reticle ranging is correct. A FFP reticle has a constant relationship to target size regardless of magnification, a SFP reticle must be set to the calibrated mag or you must multiply or divide to correct if on any other mag setting( a real pain in the butt) to get accurate readings. I have scopes of both types, and much prefer FFP. Vortex makes both.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:36 AM
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Re: --> An Aussie requesting assistance finding a scope within my budget/requirements

We do get vortex over here, I'm currently trying to decide between a viper hs 4-16 or going up to a ziess for my new 243. They are a little bit more than $500 I think it was 650 for the viper. I can't quite remember I was still recovering from the wife going berserk that I'd bought another rifle.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:45 AM
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We do get vortex over here, I'm currently trying to decide between a viper hs 4-16 or going up to a ziess for my new 243. They are a little bit more than $500 I think it was 650 for the viper. I can't quite remember I was still recovering from the wife going berserk that I'd bought another rifle.
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