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Old 02-27-2003, 10:38 AM
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Re: absolute best scope???

Yeh right STL

Maybe that's why they went out of business???? [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Hope your's don't break down on you.

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Old 02-27-2003, 10:58 AM
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Re: absolute best scope???

Darryl,

the R2's tic spacing is 2 moa at 22x, you has wrote 30 moa. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Is STL Shooter on to something? [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

I think the NF NXS is a superiorly built scope to anything else I have seen or owned. That said, I don't see anything wrong with any of the other top brands, but what you are doing with it, what features it has, and what reticle style you like is a big part of the buyers perception which is the "best" scope.

All my experience with Tasco scopes has me thinking STL had his tounge through his cheek by the time he was finished typing. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-27-2003, 11:05 AM
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Re: absolute best scope???

Now Brent, I'm always serious when discussing issues of national security... [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Why, if our scout/sniper teams'd just get holda soma them Supah Snipahs - ol' Saddam'd be dealt with fast, quick and in a hurry! [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

Oh, and I think Darryl means a total of 30 MOA within the graduated area of the 5.5-22...

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Old 02-27-2003, 11:09 AM
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Re: absolute best scope???

Brent

The spacing is 2 MOA apart for "each" horizontal mark and there are 15 marks which is 30MOA "total" to work with in the entire verticle ladder grid.

That's what I was refering to as a total amount to work with and not touch the knobs..

DC [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

As an add on here, I can see it could have been confusing and STL did mention the total of 30MOA I was refering to. I went back and changed that portion of my post. Thanks for pointing that out. I was typing to fast in that section. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 02-27-2003, 01:59 PM
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Brent

I know you and others like the NF scopes and I agree they are very good but, NOT as opticily sharp as the Leupold LR to MY eyes and others.

If you get a chance, try something.

Four others plus myself set the 5 1/5X to 22X NXS on 22X and also a Leupold LR 8 1/2X to 25X to 22X.

We put them side by side on a bench looking at a fired on 100 yard target with 30 cal and 6.5 bullet holes in it at 100 yards.

Focus each scope for "your" eyes and for the distance to the 100 yd target.

Look in one scope and then the other after a short break. Then do it reverse.

The five of us all could see the ragged tears in the paper from and around the small bullet holes with the Leupold and NOT the NF.

We all agreed, the sharpness edge went to the Leupold. The NF does have some features that the Leupold does not but, the test we did showed the optics to be a bit better on the Larger Leupolds.

Try that test sometime. The scopes have to be set on the SAME power and the test done on BOTH scopes at the same time.

You may be surprised at the outcome. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Later

PS---I like NF too but only have 3 of them. I have many more Leupolds so I can make a pretty fair comparison between the two brands.
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Darryl,

I believe you, and am a proud owner of a few Leopolds, but I do not have one to compare them to that is higher than 10 power. I will however check out the difference when I get the new one for my wifes rifle. Ian has said they did a similar test with the NF and the Nikon, they found the Nikon to be a bit superior optically too. I don't think anyone would see a difference in any of the three without them being side by side, as you suggest, but it is worth noting though.

If I were Leopold, I would offer an illuminated reticle like the R2, but make the spacing calibratable to 1 moa and 2 moa both, at different power settings of course. This would be my reticle of choice with the M1 turreted LR tube.

Another thing that they could do too, is to put a small dot in the center and end the vertical and horizontal lines a .5 moa away from it, this would be a very nice feature.

If they offered a few variations to this reticle design it would be very successfull I think.

Has anyone ever approached NF and asked them to modify the R2 by adding 1 moa tic marks to one for them?
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Brent

I agree with you.

I don't think anyone has approached them (NF) with that suggestion and I think it would be a good one.

I think it all boils down to each persons preferance for thier own use when choosing a scope.

The ranges I shoot the R2 is not very good for my purpose. A dot or duplex works MUCH better for me.
Like has been mentioned before, I like to click to my targets at "any" range especially over 1000 yards.

If a person wants to see clarity, check out the 0lder Unertl 2" Objective in the 15X to 20X Target or Ultra Varmint models.
They blew the compitition away and still are.

Take care and good shooting. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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