its amazing how lr hunters are considered bad. we spend more time in the feild then most and i know that i personally shoot over 1000 rounds a year to make myself feel comfertable taking the shot. most of the sceptics that i have talked to usually shoot 20 rounds a year and they have never missed. they also say they wont shoot over 300 yards untiul that huge buck stands there at 600 and they held 6 inches over its back and droped it in its tracks with there 223 shooting 40 grain bullet. whos the ones that are full of crap.