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Unread 12-16-2011, 01:28 AM
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Re: WRONG GUNS GUYS...be a hunter pls

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why do you guys use rifles like 300RUM 338LM and so on. for normal deer at shortish ranges like 300-400-500 yards? you dont need to use that much gun powder. l always try and put a hole in the animal-but it looks like you dudes are trying to drill a hole in the mountanin aswell as the animal. and go to the pub and talk about it '' l shot a deer today from 350 yards and my bullet whent 2 meters in to the side of the mountain after exiting the deer. and the other guy sais- ohh whell thats nothing l shot a deer from 200 yards the bullet first whent through 5 pine trees then killing the animal and l found the bullet 10 feet inside the mountain. you wanna advice. use 30-06 308 7mm-08 and so on and for extender ranges for deer go with a 7mm rem mag or a 300 wm. you dont need bigger rounds. remember you shoot beter with less recoıl. and the 270 ofcourse. if you gonna kill big big game than ok 300rum is allright.

I have a very limited budget when it comes to guns. I'm also in a unique situation where when deer or hog hunting I'm as likely to shoot an animal at 50yds as I am at a 1,000yds.

I also shoot in a lot of wind so high BC bullets are very important in my selecting calibers.

If all I was shooting were deer and smaller sized game I wouldn't feel the need to own anything bigger or more powerful than my .260.

In reality though hogs are both considered to be a nuisance and trophy animal and to guarantee a kill on the big boars you need to penetrate up to 3" of cartilage before you even get to the rib cage or shoulder bones and it takes a great deal of penetrating power to do that at even medium much less long range.

I'm also planning to make a few hunts over the next five years for Elk, and possibly Moose and bears.

With all of the above as a consideration that requires me to have at least one long range monster killer and for that I decided on the .300 Rum.

I have the Rum as my dedicated long range rig and it is both heavy enough and accurate enough to fill that role for me whether I'm shooting at a bobcat at or an Elk at 1,000yds, and have the confidence that I will get a one shot kill.

Now I also own one light weight 7mm STW and one LW 300wm and at least one of them will go along with me along with the 300 Rum when I make those "once in a lifetime" hunts for Elk, Moose, Bear, and if I'm very lucky one day a Sheep and Caribou as well.

Now if I want to just have fun shooting deer and varmints at up to 900yds, from a good set position I'll get out the AR-260 and have a very good time.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 04:18 AM
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Re: WRONG GUNS GUYS...be a hunter pls

I could go on about better BC's, more energy, less wind drift and all the other stuff, but it was pretty well covered in previous responses, so I'm just going to go with, because I can.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 09:27 AM
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Re: WRONG GUNS GUYS...be a hunter pls

Interesting discussion...

For some of us, long range rifles are other forms of toys we like to tinker with, just like some folks like to have 500 horse-power cars or gold-plated handguns.

For others, a long range rifle is a tool suited for the task at hand. One does not use a 6.5 X .284 for elephants because a .375 H & H or a .458 Win. Mag. are better suited for the job. By the same token, one does not take shots at 500 meter + distances with a .458 because of the .458's poor ballistics, although I have a lot of fun trying to hit rabbits at 200 meters + with my .454 Casull lever action rifle, because of the challenge it presents.

My personal long range hunting rifle is a .284 Winchester. I could have chosen a 338 Edge or a 300 Weatherby, but that was my personal choice, just like other shooters choose different rifle/caliber combinations.

One of the great things about being fortunate to live in America is having freedom of choice. You are free to choose your guns, religion, brand of coffee, etc. If you don't like using long range rifles or long range hunting, you are also free not to do engage in this.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 09:45 AM
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Re: WRONG GUNS GUYS...be a hunter pls

Why .338 Ultra's, 338-378, 338 Edge, 338 Lapua, 300 ultras etc ?? Because they are better .Why not more energy,less wind drift, more killing power???? Why go with smaller calibers less capable??? Alot of the smaller calibers do not have the power needed for long range shots on bear, elk moose. Smaller isn't better and it never will be........If your recoil sensitive, scared to death to burn more of your precious powder or flich at muzzle blast don't shoot long range at Deer, elk bear, moose Why Not use a caliber that will get it done instead of one that MIGHT ??? Plain ridiculous...
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Unread 12-16-2011, 05:35 PM
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Re: WRONG GUNS GUYS...be a hunter pls

People have hunted since the dawn of time.

We're the most effective and insatiable predator on the planet.

We thrived long before rifles were invented.

The 30-06 has been an effective 1,000yd rifle for over 100yrs.
We didn't stop there. And, I don't think it's going to stop with the 300gr Berger Hybrid.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 05:48 PM
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It's all about what the shooter wants. If I am going to a place were I can get a shot that might stretch out 1200-1500 I am taking one of my bigger pieces. If I am limited to 500 or less I take smaller pieces. The thing we can't control is where the game comes out. If I have a 338 Lapua and I am sitting on a field watching 1000+ yards and the trophy of a lifetime walks out 50 yards away guess what I am shooting.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 06:01 PM
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Re: WRONG GUNS GUYS...be a hunter pls

I can use my 338 Norma up close also, but I cant use my 30-30 at 1k.

I've seen my fair share of dead critters throughout the years and have yet to see a dead one that is more dead than another.
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