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Old 11-24-2012, 01:41 PM
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Why not 270wsm

Let me give a little back ground around my question. I have an elk hunt planned in 2014 in Colorado with my son. I already had a 308 but wanted something flatter shooting so I could extend my range and have something that was more forgiving vertically. I did a lot of checking for the best elk caliber and finally settled on the 270wsm. I know, there are better calibers for elk, but in considering all the different possibilities, I wanted something that would be comfortable for me to shoot. I realize I could put a muzzle brake on something bigger but I really donít like them because they are so damn loud. I am deaf enough now. While comparing ballistics I found that the 270wsm 150 gr Winchester XP3 beats his 7MM mag 160 gr Accubond in energy and bullet drop and only 10 grains less in weight. I can shoot mine all day long but after a box through his, I am ready to call it a day and I am a big man. We will be hunting around 10,000 feet and at that altitude I should have plenty of energy out to 700 to 800 yards. With all the research I did on the ballistics, I donít understand why more people donít use the 270wsm for long distance hunting and shooting. Is there something that I am missing or donít know about?
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:46 PM
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Re: Why not 270wsm

I do shoot a 270wsm and love it but bullets selection is limited compare to many other bore diam. That might be the answer.

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Old 11-24-2012, 02:00 PM
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Re: Why not 270wsm

correct. the problem is not the cartridge, it's that there are not many good choices for long range bullets
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:16 PM
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Re: Why not 270wsm

go up or down a caliber ... with the 6.5 or 7mm bullet selection, the 270 is trumped.

lots of critters fall to the 270, but the bullets have never been there for it
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:32 PM
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Re: Why not 270wsm

The problem with comparing things on paper is just that it's on paper. As good as the 270 win is I can only imaging the short mag is even better. As for felt recoil big, perceived toughness means not a thing. If you hand load you'll take a very good caliber and make it better with bullets available only to handloaders, like a Matrix 165gr VLD, Bigngreen is a fan of em, or the 170gr Berger is coming out with. I say go for it.
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:07 PM
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Re: Why not 270wsm

I love my 270WSM & no matter what flavor you like, Matrix, Berger, or the new Nosler Long Range Accubond, the .277 cal is getting new life breathed back into it.
Plus the Barnes line, & even a 160gr Nosler Partition make it a great choice for Elk at most ranges. Heck I load 140 Accubonds @ around 3100 fps, for 3 different 270WSM's & everything from Deer, Elk, & Bear have fallen to that load.

I don't consider anything smaller as an Elk rifle personally. I like the S.D. & bullet weights for the 270 as a great & capable starting point. If I was to step up it'd be a 30 or a 338. I wouldn't step down unless I was varmint hunting. I'm kinda odd that way I guess.
I know guys & ladies kill elk with 243's every year, so I'm not sayin it's not possible to step down, but I personally consider a 270win as a minimum for elk. And since all my freezer filling firearms pull double duty as Elk rifles, I consider anything smaller to be varmint/target toys. Just my opinion.

But ya, the 270WSM IS a great cartridge, & it's LR capabilities are under rated.
If you want proof, or a confidence builder search for bigngreens 800+ yd elk video.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:20 PM
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Re: Why not 270wsm

got a link to that?
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