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Old 09-04-2013, 05:16 AM
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Where does accuracy suffer?

OK,I need to ask a question. I'll try to word it correctly,but not sure I know how. I'm looking to build a light weight rifle for mountain hunting. Elk on down to whitetails east of the Mississippi. Now then. I've seen extreme light weights down to 5 pounds! Sheese! That would carry like a 20 oz bottle of soda. As tempting as it is to just head that route,I can't imagine the 300 yd accuracy being all that great. I know it comes down to the operator in the end,but fly weight rigs can't lay still very well. I have a Guide Special here I may re-barrel to a more elk like caliber. I have a personal limit (from an operator stand point ) of 400 yds in the field on game. Does anyone here have one of the fly weight rigs that will go say 1 1/2 MOA (benched) out to 400?
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:47 AM
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Re: Where does accuracy suffer?

You can definitely put together a lightweight rig that will hold 1-1/2 MOA at 400 yards. I think that the key to that is to shoot a mild chambering. Most of the really lightweight guns I have seen that are accurate are .260 rem on the light side or a .284 win on the big side. You have to determine for yourself what you can shoot well weight wise, and go from there.
I personally would rather pack a 10-12lbs rifle in 7 mag or bigger (like a .338). I feel that for 5-7 lbs extra, you get a lot more effective range.
Most guys I see with 5lbs guns are HARDCORE sheep hunters that live out of their packs for 2 weeks or more and the weight is a big issue.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:04 AM
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Re: Where does accuracy suffer?

I have an old Ruger 77 MKII 7RM stainless with the skeleton stock, that weighs about 6 lbs with a scope on it. It will beat you to death, but it shoots 1 ragged hole groups @ 100 yards with my handloads, and the gun is 100% factory, other than a trigger job.
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:43 PM
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Re: Where does accuracy suffer?

I'm thinking 308 Winchester and a 18" barrel of medium profile with a 1-10 twist, pushing a 180g accubond or ttsx, at around 2500 fps
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:09 PM
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Re: Where does accuracy suffer?

I wouldn't go any less than 20" with a 1:10 twist in a .308 Win.

But a Sendero / Varmint Contour barrel cut down to 20" is a really nice weight and the short heavy barrel is very stiff and not as prone to vibration and harmonics. But extremely capable out to 1K target shooting, even with factory Hornady TAP (red box) 168 BTHP's.

I used to have a model 7 custom setup like that in an HS Precision Pro-Series 2000 Varmint stock (black/gray web, of course).

H-S Precision Pro-Series 2000 Varmint Stocks - Remington Model 7 (Seven)
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:43 PM
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Re: Where does accuracy suffer?

You wouldn't happen to know what that rig weighed would you? The M700 Mountain Guide I have here for a donor is of course a short action in 243. I don't have a problem opening up the bolt face,or fetching a PT&G bolt for it should the need arise. I like the 7 SAUM. But honestly the brass situation has me a little cautious. Never having a 6.5 round I'm itching to try one,but not too impressed with the short action versions.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:00 PM
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Re: Where does accuracy suffer?

Lets see....That gun was stolen back in 2008, so it's been quite a while since I had held it, but I've toted that gun many a mile...

I would have to say it was right around 10-11 lbs loaded, including the scope. Not a bad pack weight for a 1K paper-puncher. Small, compact, maneuverable. And inside of 850, just about anything that walks is gonna drop with a 168-175gr bullet.

I wouldn't shoot at deer-sized game at over around 750 yards with a 308...But that's just my opinion. It's one of my favorite calibers, but it's major downfall is that it starts losing alot of velocity and energry needed to take larger game, after about 600 yards or so.
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