Re: When isnt it hunting anymore ?
This is a *great* thread and absolutely no better place (and participants BTW) to articulate it. It's rekindlilng in me my hunting desire (i'm currently an armchair participant remembering 'back when.....').
I remember my 1st long-range kill (yup, it was a K-I-L-L with too not much to the hunt) back in Fall 1983. It was about 520yds as i estimated. I was using my high-school graduation present - a Rem 700 ADL in 7mm RM - w/175grn Remington off-the-shelf bullets (which shot consistently 1.25"), and iron sights.
I was ecstatic to say the least - i ran all the way home to tell my folks (who had watched the shot through binos) Then i went back to the shot site and began the tracking. I'd hunted/killed whitetails before and all were shots under 100yds, but this little guy was the most memorable by far.
No one i've ever encountered disputed the ethics of the shot. If asked about the shot/conditions, i'd supply the information that i spent all the money i worked for (lotsa hay throwing/firewood selling!!!) on ammo practicing and was *always* practicing range estimation - commonplace back then before all these fancy LRF's.
I think it's not hunting when the kill comes in the same way as "fishing in a barrel". If the hunt is on a small, *enclosed* game preserve led by the preserve managers and the game has nowhere to run when/if they sense you coming. Otherwise, go to the auction/feed-lot/grocery store and buy your steaks.
As mentioned about LRH, those that can (make the shot) *do*, those that can't (won't?) cry. Thats it.
BergerBoy - "The mind works best when open..... Kinda like a parachute. "