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Unread 03-30-2012, 10:21 PM
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weatherby and swarovski

well I think i have decided what to do. From what I have heard from the opinions of others is there is no perfect long range big game rifle. Everyone has their own idea of what is good from 338 lupua to 338 edge to 300 ultra mag to short mags 7mm stw but it seems from the ballistic charts i have seen the 338-378 weatherby mag just has a little bit more knock down power at long range than anything else. And when i say long range i mean more than 600 yds. If anyone can convince me other wise I believe I am going to purchase a new weatherby 338-378. I also have decided on the swarovski z6-5-30-50. My next pay day is when i plan to order my new toys. Send feedback please I really want to buy the best gun for elk, moose, grizzly, and African big 5 all big game on earth cause i am a boat captain and travel a lot. I really want this to be the best decision I have ever made. Lets pretend money is no option cause i know the cost of ammo and the scope. all feed back is appriciated but please have facts to back it up. Thank you all happy hunting
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Unread 03-31-2012, 12:16 AM
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Re: weatherby and swarovski

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 338-378 weatherby!! There are other big .338's out there that put it to shame as well. The first that comes to mind would be the .338 Allen Mag based off of the .408 cheytac case. You can achieve muzzle Vel. around 3400 fps with 300gr SMK's and Berger's. There are some that will fall in between the two and are too many for me to list. The only problem with the 338 AM is that you will not be able to get it in a factory rig strictly custom!! That would be the way to go if money wasn't an issue. That's just my $.02 hope I was a little bit of help!!
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Unread 03-31-2012, 12:55 AM
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Re: weatherby and swarovski

Well that is the big dog on the factory chambering heap! Not saying you are going wrong with your choices but IMO the 338-378 Weatherby is overkill for just out to 600 yards or so. Considering the wallop you are going to take with every shot and the cost of that big daddy I personally wouldn't go that route. Of course I don't know how much you intend to shoot it and that will make a difference. Now if you are really pushing things out to 1000 yards and beyond then I would say you are more in the ball park. I can't remember how much the Weatherby weighs but I hope it is a fair amount so you can manage the recoil and keep your accuracy where it needs to be. A brake is a must!

Regarding the scope.
1. Dangerous game of any kind demands a scope with a lower minimum power than 5x IMO. I would personally be looking at a 2.5-3x on the bottom end at most. You can't kill what you can't see running at you are 30 MPH!
2. Tough as nails reliable is at the top of the list as well. For me that doesn't mean Swaro but NF, S&B, Premier, Zeiss Tactical, and maybe Trijicon, and I would maybe look at the upper end elites and the SS line from SWFA.

You will get lots of opinions, like you mentioned, but these are my thoughts.


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Unread 03-31-2012, 01:58 AM
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Re: weatherby and swarovski

thank you gentleman i do want to shoot past 1000 yds and still have the knock down power to make a one shot one kill shot. I know its all about placement but it doesnt hurt to have a caliber that still packs a very nice punch.
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Unread 03-31-2012, 08:43 AM
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Re: weatherby and swarovski

Good choice! for a one gun man the .338-.378 Wby is about as good as it gets, sepecially if hunting globally. You can kill the small game too dead, right?

I will say that most places in Africa wont allow the majority of the big 5 to be huntied with anything less than a .375 of some sort. I would still buy the .338-.378, but buy another rifle in .416 or larger for your nig five when you go.

All scoped out i think that the .338.378 Wby Accumark will come out to around 9.5 lbs. They all come from the factory with a brake.

Your scope has too much magnifacation on the low end. Ive had some close shots on black bears with my .338 RUM and the 4.5 power on my mark 4 is too much. I can get to 1k yards with a 10x scope, but preffer something between 14x and 20xon the top end. look up March scopes, they have a 10x zoom and are solid scopes (so the scopes are 2.5-25x50 on the hunting model). Im buying a March next. If not March then nightforce.
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Unread 04-02-2012, 01:12 PM
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Re: weatherby and swarovski

For the guy who can afford it the 338-378 wby accumark is as good as it gets. The 338's off the chey-tac case that were mentioned like the allen will beat the 338-378 wby velocity wise but are to heavy to hunt with at 16+ pounds. Since you want a hunting rifle and not trying to brake speed records on long targets the 338-378 wby is the best choice out there. Get a scope with less power and more field of view. The swarovski's are at the top end so no problem there just get a little less power for hunting the dangerous stuff and the close shots on anything.
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Unread 04-02-2012, 03:56 PM
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Re: weatherby and swarovski

notwithstanding the comments made above regarding 375 and up being required for the big 5...

338 Win Mag will do everything you described.

338-378 WBY will do it better.

I just can't imagine myself wanting to practice much with a big cartridge like that without a good muzzle break. Even if your shoulder doesn't hurt, your pocket book might.

Even my tiny by comparison 300 Win Mag spends more time in the safe than I'd like. Unless I have a specific need, I always reach for one of the 6mm or 6.5's. They're less expensive and more fun to shoot. And, they can reach out as far as most of the 500-1000yd shooting opportunities I have readily available to me will permit.

If you can only afford one such rifle, you probably need to err on the big side since it's hard to kill a big critter with a small caliber.

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