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Old 03-07-2011, 08:31 PM
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Vanguard Sub MOA vs Savage 111 long range

would like to here opinions on these two rifles in 7 mm rem, I'm looking at both and would like to here what you guys think. I will be using it for hunting.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:30 AM
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Re: Vanguard Sub MOA vs Savage 111 long range

If l were you l would really concider the Tikka T3 super varmint aswell !!!!!
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:39 AM
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Re: Vanguard Sub MOA vs Savage 111 long range

Both are very good guns for non custom rifles and shoot very well for the most part. Its totally a matter of personal preference. Pick the one you have the most confidence in and shoot it. So many times I see people pick guns that someone else says it the best but the person wanting the gun actually likes the other. Then they end up never fully liking the gun and can never shoot it well. Like I said, pick the one you really like and shoot the hell out of it. The more you shoot it the better it will do for you. Most guns at that level shoot well and unless there is a defect in the gun it will shoot better than the shooter can shoot it.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:54 AM
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Re: Vanguard Sub MOA vs Savage 111 long range

Thanks guys, I will be using this rifle for long range hunting. I have a Savage 10 fCP with the HS stock. And a CZ 550 Varmit, But 308 just don't cut it for shooting deer and elk out past 500 yrds, in my opinion, I have killed deer and hogs out to 400 and 500 Yrds, but I want to push it out a little more and still pack a punch. I'm going to Montana this Nov so I want to get this rifle now and start practicing.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:19 AM
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Re: Vanguard Sub MOA vs Savage 111 long range

Hey look my first post!!

Anyway, I own 2 vanguards one in 257wby and a 300wby, neither are sub-moa certified however i get better than moa in both when I use weatherby ammo. (the 257wby is silly accurate) On that note I'm getting a savage in .308 coming up shortly, my wby's shoot probably better than i do right now and I have taken a deer and an elk with both. Elk was at 302yds and the deer at 280yds. The nice thing is when I zero at 200yds I simply hold dead on out to about 300 yds becuse they shoot so flat. Both are good guns, You cant go wrong with either!!
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:15 AM
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Re: Vanguard Sub MOA vs Savage 111 long range

I can't compare the two because I have never shot a Savage, but a lot floks seem to really like them. I have never shot a Sub MOA Vanguard either, but my smith just picked one up for me (in 300 Wby) for a build I want to do on it and he said the factory shot target group was about .35". i haven't see nit yet because he is about 3 1/2 hrs from me.

I do own a S&W M1500 in 7 RM, which is the same Howa action and I like it a lot. The last time I shot it, it grouped about .3 something @ 100 yds.

What I like about the Sub MOA Vanguard (or any Howa action) is...

- integral recoil lug in the receiver
- flat bottomed receiver
- one piece bolt
- M16 style extractor
- ported bolt sleeve
- very easy to tune trigger - now I've heard some have difficulties tuning the trigger, but that's not been my experience and seems to vary gun to gun.
- a good selection of aftermarket stocks, bases and rings (any Rem 700 bases and rings will fit the Howa)

The Sub MOA platform, stock and action, are a good one to build off of when your factory barrel is shot out - not that the Savage isn't.

As mentioned, I think it comes down to personal choice. Take a good look at the features of both, go out and handle both and make your decision.

-Mark
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:53 PM
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Re: Vanguard Sub MOA vs Savage 111 long range

I just looked at a Savage model 10 Predator in 260 Remington, think that cartridge can do the trick out to 700 yrds on a deer.
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