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Unread 10-13-2005, 11:24 AM
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While the Rem 700's are good guns, for accuracy the average Rem can not compare to the average Savage. I own several of both and would buy a 12FV, or 10FP in 308, put a good scope on it and get some match ammo for it if you dont reload, you would have a very capable 600yrd+ platform.
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    Unread 10-13-2005, 02:40 PM
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    if you want a real good setup I would get the 12fv in 308 and shoot Richard Graves 169.5 ULDRBBT WildCat bullet.
    The BC is around .550 and should shoot well in a 308

    just my opinion

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    I too like the .308 diameter but in an ultra mag case.The mod 116 SAK weather warrior Savage really accurate rifles and have muzzle brakes already installed also pillar bedded
    and the trigger is good as well.The 2 that I personally know about mine and a friends will shoot 2" groups at 635yds. this is with quality reloads. and can easily be converted to other mag calibers.
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    Unread 10-13-2005, 03:51 PM
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    I have one of the 116 in a 300 RUM also,

    gun shoots great but even with a muzzle break it still kicks the snot out of me. I am gonna sell it to fund some other projects. I have heard several people critiscise the savage pillar bedding job so I am going to have it re-done in a 12bv stock I am using for my Allen Mag.

    the acu-trigger is one of the best inventions that a factory could ever put on a rifle. the varmint series rifles will go down to 1.5lbs and we even managed to get BJ's trigger down to 8oz.

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    My personal bias will be to a Savage/Stevens. I shoot two factory Savages (270 and 7RM) and have two Stevens for actions (7RM Kreiger, 6.5Mystic Gaillard). I love these rifles.

    You include LR and deer in your quests so I would strongly suggest against the 308. Yes, the 308 is plenty lethal on deer out past 600yds. A wind cheater it is not!

    For me, distance is not that big a deal. Wind is. That eliminates the 30cal as only a bigger case need apply (I doubt you want a WM, WBY or RUM to go pop marmots/coyotes).

    So in the factory offerings, I suggest the 7-08 (they don't list any 260Rem) as a min. Preferably the 7RM (280 but not listed). If they offer the 25-06, then another excellent choice.

    If you don't plan on many shots at a time, the sporter barrels are just fine. In this weather, mine can launch 4 7RM rds with good effect before overheating.

    With the 7RM, you have amazingly low wind drift (162gr Amax 1/3 the drift compared to a 308), flat trajectory and power to hammer any game a very long ways out.

    I have attached pics of my personal rig. Sharp Shooter trigger as mine came with the orig one (YUCK!!!!), oversized factory bolt handle, Hogue pre fit recoil pad, Micaluk AR15 muzzle brake (awesome and dirt cheap). Action has been bedded and forend releaved alot. Shoots sub MOA to the KM. Recoil is light and I spot my own hits.

    I think the best buy on the planet today is the Stevens 200. Get one in 7RM, put in a trigger and bed the action. It will shoot.





    For a factory cartridge from Savage/Stevens, the 7RM gets my nod.

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