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Old 10-20-2013, 04:51 PM
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Thousand yard options

I'm looking for of options in a new gun. I mainly hunt whitetail and elk. I've got 300 RUM which I love.
I've also got a 270 WSM which is great. My sixteen year old daughter has decided that she's going to inherit that gun sooner rather than later--as she's shot four animals with it I tend to agree.
I was set on a Winchester 7 WSM in a coyote light but they no longer offer that.
I'm now re-evaluating my options (Which is almost as fun as shooting), and trying to decide where to go from here.
I'm looking at rounds capable of taking either elk or deer out to a thousand yards. I'd like to go lighter rather than heavier as I've shot the big guns and like to take it easy on my shoulder.
I'd also like to look at something in a production rifle that I can play with and modify.

Any opinions/ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Andy
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:48 AM
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Re: Thousand yard options

As for a caliber, I think you have one of the better options in a 300 RUM. There is not a whole lot of room to step down from there to keep a 1,000 yard elk rifle. You could go to a 300 Win Mag or one of the larger 7mm's, but I don't know that it is going to be a huge reduction in recoil. Is you current 300 RUM too heavy? Is the recoil too much for you? Maybe some more details on why you want to move on from the RUM would help.

As far as a production rifle you can modify, a Savage or Remington 700 would be a good place to start, lot of modifications available for both.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:59 AM
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As for a caliber, I think you have one of the better options in a 300 RUM. There is not a whole lot of room to step down from there to keep a 1,000 yard elk rifle. You could go to a 300 Win Mag or one of the larger 7mm's, but I don't know that it is going to be a huge reduction in recoil. Is you current 300 RUM too heavy? Is the recoil too much for you? Maybe some more details on why you want to move on from the RUM would help.

As far as a production rifle you can modify, a Savage or Remington 700 would be a good place to start, lot of modifications available for both.
Agree with this...if he can afford it, he should look into the Remington Sendero's. Awesome rifle in it's stock form!
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:00 AM
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Re: Thousand yard options

Andy,

If you want to reduce recoil, the best way to do that is with a muzzle brake. Most serious long range shooters put brakes on their rifles. Reducing felt recoil is one reason and another big reason is being able to stay or get back on target quickly.

Killing deer and killing elk @ 1000 yds are two different propositions. The bigger the cal and bullet the better your odds of a quick uneventful kill on an elk. You already have your 1000 yd elk rifle in the 300 RUM, depending on bullet and load. Are you getting tired of the recoil? If so, I would recommend a brake.

Going lighter is going to reduce your "killing effectiveness" at longer ranges. Not a big deal on dear but something to consider if elk is the game. So what I'm saying is, if you want to reach out and touch, you have to pay the price, in more ways than one. No free lunches. It comes down to improving or decreasing the odds.

So chamber wise, for deer, a 6.5-284, 264 Win, 270 WSM, 284 Win

For elk, a big 30 (you already have one) or 338.

For long range work, I would put a brake on all of the above.

My preference in a production rifle would be a Vanguard or Howa followed by an M70.

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Old 10-21-2013, 01:31 PM
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Re: Thousand yard options

I had the same questions about a year and a half ago. Ended up getting a Rem 700 XCR long range with the Bell and Carlson stock (Aluminium bedding block) in 300 Win Mag. Then had the rifle bedded and braked by ATRS in Calgary and added a Timney trigger as the 40x wasn't consistent (and wasn't safe as far as I was concerned). Added H and S Precision bottom metal and mags, although I've converted back to single shot to use the 215 gr Berger hybrids (210 gr VLDS fit nicely in the mags). Total cost was about 3.5k. Is quite a light rig (though long) with negligible recoil. Double plug at the range, and single when hunting. When I shoot out this barrel, I'll have a match barrel put on in 338 edge. Shot a moose at 778m this fall, and didn't feel like the combo was underpowered. Just had to adjust bullet type for impact speed. Hope that helps.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:41 PM
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Re: Thousand yard options

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I'm looking for of options in a new gun. I mainly hunt whitetail and elk. I've got 300 RUM which I love.
I've also got a 270 WSM which is great. My sixteen year old daughter has decided that she's going to inherit that gun sooner rather than later--as she's shot four animals with it I tend to agree.
I was set on a Winchester 7 WSM in a coyote light but they no longer offer that.
I'm now re-evaluating my options (Which is almost as fun as shooting), and trying to decide where to go from here.
I'm looking at rounds capable of taking either elk or deer out to a thousand yards. I'd like to go lighter rather than heavier as I've shot the big guns and like to take it easy on my shoulder.
I'd also like to look at something in a production rifle that I can play with and modify.

Any opinions/ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Andy
Hard as hell to beat the tried and true 300wm for that application. Of course my preference runs to the 7mm STW but I have, shoot, and love both calibers.

The lighter bullets in the STW especially with a good brake on the rifle make it very easy on the shoulder.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:47 PM
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Re: Thousand yard options

Plus one on the 300 wm. Tough round to beat with what your wanting to accomplish. As mentioned before, put a brake on it. Then you will not have the recoil but will go deaf. LOL. JK.
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