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Old 02-15-2012, 07:20 PM
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testing factory ammo questions

Hi all,

First real post here. So, I'm just getting into rifle shooting in general, got my Savage this last summer, and will have it where I want it equipment wise by mid June (waiting on a new stock). In the mean time, I am starting to look at ammo (not hand loading yet, need to convince the wife it's worth it).

Any way, I am looking for some wisdom when it comes to testing ammo, for comparison. I have 5 brands I am looking at for my initial testing:

Hornady Match 168gr A-Max
HSM Trophy Gold 168gr VLD
Nosler Custom Match Grade 168gr Custom Comp.
Remington Premier Match 168gr SMK
SSA Sierra 268gr OTM

My current plan, when The range I'm going to reopens, is to shoot a couple fouling rounds, not necessarily of the ammo above (I have some Remington Core-lokt laying around) and then shoot groups of 3-5 rounds of each, letting the barrel cool in between, and putting up a fresh target for each brand.

Where I shoot there is a 100 yard and a 200 meter range.

My questions are:

am I missing anything in my plan (another ammo brand to try, any shooting info you might need to give me advice, etc...) ?

and,

Which distance would be better for an initial test, the 100yd or the 200m? I am also considering testing at both distances just to see how things work out.

Any advice and or comments would be welcome
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:39 PM
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Re: ammo comparison shoot questions

Welcome!

Did I miss the caliber of your Savage? I saw you chose a lot of 168 grain bullet weights to try, which could mean of 308?

In my opinion, if you have shot the rifle/scope combo before, and it's shooting to point of aim, 100 yards would be good but 200 yards would be better. If you have not shot the rifle/scope combo you might want to start at 25 yards to make sure it's on the paper. A rule of thumb that I have grown up with is, "on at 25 puts you on at 250".

I have read nothing but good about Savages and I think you're in for a lot of fun. Do a lot of reading here and you're sure to get pointed in the right direction.

Take care and good shooting!
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:49 PM
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Re: testing factory ammo questions

Sorry, yes, it's a Savage 308. I only got the scope recently (Christmas), so I don't know it's ultimate performance, as the only range available to me is 50 yards and was shooting 2.5 inches high, but when I cranked the elevationdown, it was hitting POA when I had adjusted it. it's now set back shooting 2.5" high at 50 with a guestimate zero of 275 yards (using SSA 175gr ammo and Point Blank ballistics software). I forgot to put in my first post that I might be trying the SSA 175gr as well
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:55 PM
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Re: testing factory ammo questions

Save some energy and put up several targets at 200. Unless you need the exercise. 400 yard walks you will put on a few miles on the dogs before the day is done. mark your targets for what ammo so you will not get them mixed. Bring your cleaning gear to clean barrel thoroughly between brands. Keep ammo not being used in a shaded place so temp does not give false reading.
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:00 PM
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Thanks for the advice Red hunter, totally forgot about cleaning the barrel between brands. I keep a sharpie marker in my range bag for marking targets. plan was to mark them all prior to even getting to the range.
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Re: testing factory ammo questions

Federal makes a proven accuracy round in this caliber; Federal Gold-Medal Match using a 168 grain Sierra Match King bullet. This round is standard with all the police marksman types in my area. You mention that you are waiting for a new stock. Before you get serious about choosing your most accurate load, be sure you have buttoned up everything tight. By that I mean, torque your action, scope rings, and scope base screws to proper spec. Read up on proper barrel break-in procedures, be methodical, and document range conditions/your results. Don't be in a rush to do too much during one range session.

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Sorry, yes, it's a Savage 308. I only got the scope recently (Christmas), so I don't know it's ultimate performance, as the only range available to me is 50 yards and was shooting 2.5 inches high, but when I cranked the elevationdown, it was hitting POA when I had adjusted it. it's now set back shooting 2.5" high at 50 with a guestimate zero of 275 yards (using SSA 175gr ammo and Point Blank ballistics software). I forgot to put in my first post that I might be trying the SSA 175gr as well
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Federal makes a proven accuracy round in this caliber; Federal Gold-Medal Match using a 168 grain Sierra Match King bullet. This round is standard with all the police marksman types in my area. You mention that you are waiting for a new stock. Before you get serious about choosing your most accurate load, be sure you have buttoned up everything tight. By that I mean, torque your action, scope rings, and scope base screws to proper spec. Read up on proper barrel break-in procedures, be methodical, and document range conditions/your results. Don't be in a rush to do too much during one range session.

You're on your way
Thanks for the info.

I'll probably add the federal match ammo to the list...it will be a nice long day at the range or may be 2 days, 3 brands of ammo a trip.

the barrel on my rifle is broken in, I did that soon after I got it.

New stock is because I really don't like the savage stock on it (low end model plastic stock)
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